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The author did a bunch of things that were irrelevant to the product (deploying to Fargate using Pulumi) while not delivering on the basic features that they we

by milch 1y ago

The author did a bunch of things that were irrelevant to the product (deploying to Fargate using Pulumi) while not delivering on the basic features that they were asked for ("terminal inspired email client"). If you watch the video it’s a super basic web app that has nothing to do with the TUI apps Kagi named you should use as inspiration. There’s no drafts. No CC or BCC field. No folders or labels (including sent or trash!). No replies. No threads. No shortcuts. There’s not even an indication of whether an email has been read or not. In terms of features it is very very very barebones, and I’m sure if you asked a few users all or most of these would be table stakes. Yes we can agree that "terminal inspired" is very open to interpretation, but spend a few minutes using the apps they gave as reference and you should be able to come up with a long list of features besides "send & receive email", which is the main thing they demonstrated. I get this is a short challenge, so pick a handful of things that are quick to implement and focus on those (like unread markers). You can even say this is a backend position so the UI shouldn’t matter, so then just implement them in the backend and make the simplest UI for it you can! They certainly "delivered" a product but I would not call it polished, and I would not confidently say this was a "culture fit" rejection - I see plenty of other reasons

MeetingsBrowser 1y ago
> but I would not call it polished The hiring manager above thought it was too polished, but you think it is not polished enough. > There’s no drafts. No CC or BCC field. No folders or labels (including sent or trash!). No replies. No threads. No shortcuts. There’s not even an indication of whether an email has been read or not. In terms of features it is very very very barebones None of these were asked for. Your guess as to what the true requirements are completely different from the authors, and others in this comment section. Everyone seems to have different opinions on why the author failed. No one should have their time wasted on a take home test destined to be rejected because they guessed wrong. And in this case, the author explicitly asked if they were on the right track before spending time on the test. Kagi had the opportunity to reject early or nudge the author back in the expected direction. Instead they wasted everyone's time. I don't see how this can be interpreted in a positive way.
- ziml77 1y ago
  The candidate here focused on the wrong things, causing it to be overly focused in some areas while ignoring the main task which revolved around creating an interface inspired by a specifically listed set of terminal mail applications. So, yes it was both polished and unpolished simultaneously.
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by milch 1y ago

MeetingsBrowser 1y ago

> but I would not call it polished The hiring manager above thought it was too polished, but you think it is not polished enough. > There’s no drafts. No CC or BCC field. No folders or labels (including sent or trash!). No replies. No threads. No shortcuts. There’s not even an indication of whether an email has been read or not. In terms of features it is very very very barebones None of these were asked for. Your guess as to what the true requirements are completely different from the authors, and others in this comment section. Everyone seems to have different opinions on why the author failed. No one should have their time wasted on a take home test destined to be rejected because they guessed wrong. And in this case, the author explicitly asked if they were on the right track before spending time on the test. Kagi had the opportunity to reject early or nudge the author back in the expected direction. Instead they wasted everyone's time. I don't see how this can be interpreted in a positive way.

ziml77 1y ago
The candidate here focused on the wrong things, causing it to be overly focused in some areas while ignoring the main task which revolved around creating an interface inspired by a specifically listed set of terminal mail applications. So, yes it was both polished and unpolished simultaneously.
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