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It feels as though we are on the path toward the government endorsing essential oils, homeopathy, psychics and Ouija Boards. All because one person perceives “s

It feels as though we are on the path toward the government endorsing essential oils, homeopathy, psychics and Ouija Boards. All because one person perceives “science” as a political opponent.

parineum 2y ago
Is that person RFK because it isn't Trump. Trump doesn't give a shit about science, he cares about support. That's why Democrat castoffs (RFK after being antivax was no longer a left wing position and Gabbard for having the audacity to oppose the Clinton machine) found a home under his tent. Politically, those were great moves. He was able to pull outsider figures from the center-left away from the party that had tripled down on party loyalists.
- watwut 2y ago
  RFK is not Democrat in any reasonable sense and wasn't for years. RFK is literally Secretary of Health and Human Services appointed by Trump. And RFK is perfectly matching the rest of Trumps and republican party policies regardless where you look.
  - parineum 2y ago
    RFK was a prominent Democrat for for his entire life and was considered/offered various political positions by Democrats which he declined to continue his environmental work. He ran as a Democrat in the primaries less than a year ago. RFK didn't change his views, some significant world event happened and the Democratic party turned against the medical, health and food skeptics that they previously embraced. RFK didn't move right, MAGA recruited the skeptics of the establishment. RFK being am example of the previously mentioned health establishment skeptic and Gabbard being the foreign policy skeptic. Those positions pre-MAGA were under the Democratic tent. Have you ever met a raw food afficianado who is antivax and avoids red dye #whatever? That person used to vote for Democrats, now they're MAGA. They aren't Republicans, they're MAGA.
- computerthings 2y ago
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gblargg 2y ago
Do you feel the same way about European countries who don't add fluoride to water? Do you think we should consume shampoo and soap because it's beneficial when used topically?
- aegypti 2y ago
  …yes? That exact strain of provincial European quackiness is how you get homeopathy and alternative medicines covered under public health insurance and paid for by tax dollars in Germany, Switzerland, Sweden, etc. At least France grappled with it ~5 years ago and removed it IIRC. Still being debated in Germany. Slippery slope.
  - AStonesThrow 2y ago
    > how you get homeopathy Flouridating water supplies is more or less literally homeopathy!
    - aegypti 2y ago
      The remineralization of tooth enamel through biologically active concentrations and well understood dose-response effects is actually quite different from having water remember inert substances diluted beyond Avogadro’s limit.
      - AStonesThrow 2y ago
        Bro I don’t know about you, but I haven’t got a lot of tooth enamel in my digestive tract, and I strive to keep it that way.
        aegypti 2y ago
        We’re all very lucky fluoridated water won’t grow tooth enamel in your digestive tract then, it has more than enough shit to deal with as is!
    - gblargg 2y ago
glowiefedposter 2y ago
bootlicking only if they are coated in fluoride
tim333 2y ago
I hope they don't ban wifi https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/14dybf3/just_a_reminder_that_rfkjr_believes_wifi_causes/ https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/14dybf3/just_a_re...
- ryandrake 2y ago
  I have little doubt that by the time this is over, they’ll be teaching public school kids that WiFi causes cancer, the earth is flat, psychic powers work, vibrating crystals can cure diseases, the moon landings were fake, and professional wrestling is real. I actually miss the GOP of the 90s, who just wanted to teach that the Earth was 6000 years old and that Jesus rode dinosaurs.

It feels as though we are on the path toward the government endorsing essential oils, homeopathy, psychics and Ouija Boards. All because one person perceives “science” as a political opponent.

parineum 2y ago

Is that person RFK because it isn't Trump. Trump doesn't give a shit about science, he cares about support. That's why Democrat castoffs (RFK after being antivax was no longer a left wing position and Gabbard for having the audacity to oppose the Clinton machine) found a home under his tent. Politically, those were great moves. He was able to pull outsider figures from the center-left away from the party that had tripled down on party loyalists.

watwut 2y ago
RFK is not Democrat in any reasonable sense and wasn't for years. RFK is literally Secretary of Health and Human Services appointed by Trump. And RFK is perfectly matching the rest of Trumps and republican party policies regardless where you look.
- parineum 2y ago
  RFK was a prominent Democrat for for his entire life and was considered/offered various political positions by Democrats which he declined to continue his environmental work. He ran as a Democrat in the primaries less than a year ago. RFK didn't change his views, some significant world event happened and the Democratic party turned against the medical, health and food skeptics that they previously embraced. RFK didn't move right, MAGA recruited the skeptics of the establishment. RFK being am example of the previously mentioned health establishment skeptic and Gabbard being the foreign policy skeptic. Those positions pre-MAGA were under the Democratic tent. Have you ever met a raw food afficianado who is antivax and avoids red dye #whatever? That person used to vote for Democrats, now they're MAGA. They aren't Republicans, they're MAGA.
computerthings 2y ago
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gblargg 2y ago

Do you feel the same way about European countries who don't add fluoride to water? Do you think we should consume shampoo and soap because it's beneficial when used topically?

aegypti 2y ago
…yes? That exact strain of provincial European quackiness is how you get homeopathy and alternative medicines covered under public health insurance and paid for by tax dollars in Germany, Switzerland, Sweden, etc. At least France grappled with it ~5 years ago and removed it IIRC. Still being debated in Germany. Slippery slope.
- AStonesThrow 2y ago
  > how you get homeopathy Flouridating water supplies is more or less literally homeopathy!
  - aegypti 2y ago
    The remineralization of tooth enamel through biologically active concentrations and well understood dose-response effects is actually quite different from having water remember inert substances diluted beyond Avogadro’s limit.
    - AStonesThrow 2y ago
      Bro I don’t know about you, but I haven’t got a lot of tooth enamel in my digestive tract, and I strive to keep it that way.
      - aegypti 2y ago
        We’re all very lucky fluoridated water won’t grow tooth enamel in your digestive tract then, it has more than enough shit to deal with as is!
  - gblargg 2y ago

glowiefedposter 2y ago

bootlicking only if they are coated in fluoride

tim333 2y ago

I hope they don't ban wifi https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/14dybf3/just_a_reminder_that_rfkjr_believes_wifi_causes/ https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/14dybf3/just_a_re...

ryandrake 2y ago
I have little doubt that by the time this is over, they’ll be teaching public school kids that WiFi causes cancer, the earth is flat, psychic powers work, vibrating crystals can cure diseases, the moon landings were fake, and professional wrestling is real. I actually miss the GOP of the 90s, who just wanted to teach that the Earth was 6000 years old and that Jesus rode dinosaurs.