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And he's telling other people they should like it as well, because he has seen the light. My gut feeling says that there's a fair bit of Stockholm Syndrome inv

by codr7 1y ago

And he's telling other people they should like it as well, because he has seen the light. My gut feeling says that there's a fair bit of Stockholm Syndrome involved in the attachments people form with Rust. You could see similar behavioral issues with C++ back in the days, but Rust takes it to another level.

awesome_dude 1y ago
> You could see similar behavioural issues with C++ back in the days I think that it's happened to some degree for almost every computer programming language for a whiles now - first was the C guys enamoured with their NOT Pascal/Fortran/ASM, then came the C++ guys, then Java, Perl, PHP, Python, Ruby, Javascript/Node, Go, and now Rust. The vibe coding people seem to be the ones that are usurping Rust's fan boi noise at the moment - every other blog is telling people how great the tool is, or how terrible it is.
galangalalgol 1y ago
I think most of us enamoured with rust are c++ refugees glad the pain is lessened. The tooling including the compiler errors really are great though. I like the simplicity of c, but I would still pick rust for any new project just for the crates and knowing I'll never have to debug a segfault. I like pytorch and matlab fine for prototyping. Not much use for in-between languages like go or c# but I like the ergonomics of them just fine. I don't think it is at all weird for people coming from c++ or even c to like rust and prefer it over those other languages. We have already paid the cost of admission, and it comes with real benefits.
- ModernMech 1y ago
  Yes! 100% this! For me, programming with C++ was like building castles out of sand. I could never make them tall enough before they would collapse under their own weight. But with Rust, I leveled up my abilities and built a program larger than I ever thought possible. And for that I'm thankful to Rust for being a language that actually makes sense to me.

by codr7 1y ago

awesome_dude 1y ago

> You could see similar behavioural issues with C++ back in the days I think that it's happened to some degree for almost every computer programming language for a whiles now - first was the C guys enamoured with their NOT Pascal/Fortran/ASM, then came the C++ guys, then Java, Perl, PHP, Python, Ruby, Javascript/Node, Go, and now Rust. The vibe coding people seem to be the ones that are usurping Rust's fan boi noise at the moment - every other blog is telling people how great the tool is, or how terrible it is.

galangalalgol 1y ago

I think most of us enamoured with rust are c++ refugees glad the pain is lessened. The tooling including the compiler errors really are great though. I like the simplicity of c, but I would still pick rust for any new project just for the crates and knowing I'll never have to debug a segfault. I like pytorch and matlab fine for prototyping. Not much use for in-between languages like go or c# but I like the ergonomics of them just fine. I don't think it is at all weird for people coming from c++ or even c to like rust and prefer it over those other languages. We have already paid the cost of admission, and it comes with real benefits.

ModernMech 1y ago
Yes! 100% this! For me, programming with C++ was like building castles out of sand. I could never make them tall enough before they would collapse under their own weight. But with Rust, I leveled up my abilities and built a program larger than I ever thought possible. And for that I'm thankful to Rust for being a language that actually makes sense to me.