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Here's a thread from 847 days ago full of people being mean and negative about Groupon: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1288116 http://news.ycombinator.com/

Here's a thread from 847 days ago full of people being mean and negative about Groupon: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1288116 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1288116 Today, Groupon stock is worthless, and the company is doomed. Should the people in that thread be penalized for being right, but mean?

MartinCron 14y ago
There's a way to be negative (right or wrong) without being mean. I think that's the heart of the problem here.
- lawnchair_larry 14y ago
  a la pg's "I worry, though, that..."
raffi 14y ago
Most companies fail. It's a safe bet to predict failure. It's pretty lame to celebrate that failure from the sidelines. Vision is not "how is this guaranteed to fail?" but how could it possibly succeed despite the odds? Which voice do you want to bring to this community?
- mcherm 14y ago
  Groupon didn't "fail", instead it has been astonishingly successful. However, around the time of it's IPO it was receiving so much undeserved hype that in comparison to THOSE lofty goals it appears to have failed. HN readers at the time were pointing out the hype, and I think that is a GOOD thing. Nevertheless, I agree that the tone of the community could be better and I will strive to adjust my own comments to reflect that.
  - raffi 14y ago
    Thank you for the correction. My intent was not to speak to the state of Groupon. Groupon has had far more success and impact than anything I have created to date. I felt it best to not argue with the parent and focus on the attitude behind the comment and not an assessment of Groupon.
arethuza 14y ago
Those comments are mean? I can see they are skeptical, but I would hardly describe them as "mean".
- dhimes 14y ago
  I agree with you. Maybe I'm part of the problem, but I actually see nothing wrong with those comments. Now, if that were a 'Show HN' post I could see where people may want the comments to offer constructive feedback, but that thread seems like a matter-of-fact discussion of the business model of the business.
ssi1111 14y ago
If Groupon is a failure, I'd like to have several of those...

MartinCron 14y ago

There's a way to be negative (right or wrong) without being mean. I think that's the heart of the problem here.

lawnchair_larry 14y ago
a la pg's "I worry, though, that..."

raffi 14y ago

Most companies fail. It's a safe bet to predict failure. It's pretty lame to celebrate that failure from the sidelines. Vision is not "how is this guaranteed to fail?" but how could it possibly succeed despite the odds? Which voice do you want to bring to this community?

mcherm 14y ago
Groupon didn't "fail", instead it has been astonishingly successful. However, around the time of it's IPO it was receiving so much undeserved hype that in comparison to THOSE lofty goals it appears to have failed. HN readers at the time were pointing out the hype, and I think that is a GOOD thing. Nevertheless, I agree that the tone of the community could be better and I will strive to adjust my own comments to reflect that.
- raffi 14y ago
  Thank you for the correction. My intent was not to speak to the state of Groupon. Groupon has had far more success and impact than anything I have created to date. I felt it best to not argue with the parent and focus on the attitude behind the comment and not an assessment of Groupon.

arethuza 14y ago

Those comments are mean? I can see they are skeptical, but I would hardly describe them as "mean".

dhimes 14y ago
I agree with you. Maybe I'm part of the problem, but I actually see nothing wrong with those comments. Now, if that were a 'Show HN' post I could see where people may want the comments to offer constructive feedback, but that thread seems like a matter-of-fact discussion of the business model of the business.

ssi1111 14y ago

If Groupon is a failure, I'd like to have several of those...