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You have plenty of government id's in the US as well. Driver licenses, tax number, birth certificates ... I think often people mess up the subjects of privacy,
by chvid 1y ago
You have plenty of government id's in the US as well. Driver licenses, tax number, birth certificates ...
I think often people mess up the subjects of privacy, freedom and a government provided id. You can have privacy and freedom even if you have a government issued id. And you can have your privacy and freedom taken away from you without the government giving you standardized way of proving your id.
- kortilla 1y agoYou can’t have privacy if everyone uses the government as an SSO. People might be more amenable if SSO wasn’t implemented as these stupid OIDC flows where the govt gets to know every time you login to your bank and what IP you’re using, etc.
- chvid 1y agoBut you can if you live in a well functioning democratic society - remember the alternative is not no id but privatized for profit identity providers like Google and Facebook.
- Muromec 1y agoWell functioning democratic society is and idea that US explicitly rejects, because democratic society can point a finger at you and that doesn't feel nice.
- kortilla 1y agoA well functioning democratic society is one of the valid states before an autocratic regime. The Nazi party was elected. Apart from regime changes, being a functional democratic society doesn’t protect you from technical incompetence nor does it limit the ability for people with access to the DB from abusing it.
- lxgr 1y ago> You can’t have privacy if everyone uses the government as an SSO. Why not? Anonymous cryptographic attestation methods (e.g. of only the fact that you are over 18 years old, that you are a permanent resident etc.) exist.
- nly 1y agoMozilla's one died a death
- kortilla 1y agoIt’s technically possible but none of the govt implementations I’ve seen do this.
- lxgr 1y agoThe German ID card has been supporting privacy-preserving remote age attestation for over a decade, for example. These days, every smartphone with an ISO 1443 interface ("NFC") can act as a reader.
- lxgr 1y agoA tax number isn't an identity document (it's an identifier), nor is a birth certificate (since it doesn't have a photo). Driver's licenses (or non-driver IDs) are the US's de facto ID standard.
- snowwrestler 1y agoAbout a quarter of the U.S. population does not have a drivers license.