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In terms of perceived heat per energy usage, heated seats are the biggest win. At least in my ancient Volt I can get things pretty efficient by focusing only on
by WorldMaker 1y ago
In terms of perceived heat per energy usage, heated seats are the biggest win. At least in my ancient Volt I can get things pretty efficient by focusing only on seat heating over cabin heating. The trade-offs are a lot of passengers get confused by that and some of them distrust it because a vent isn't blasting a bunch of air at them (which is hugely inefficient; but was "cheap" when ICE had so much free waste heat). Also, none of the models today focus on rear passenger heated seats, that's still seen as too much of a "luxury car" thing, which is weird (and inefficient).
In the Volt it was a lot of fun to play these sorts of micro-efficiency games because getting to 40+ miles of range on an estimated 35 miles of range battery was always exciting.
(ETA: The number of times I wished I could entirely lock passengers out of HVAC controls was quite high. Seriously what is it with some people and their wish to have loud obnoxious fans blast 70+ degree heat at them in winter? While they are in their winter coats? For a five minute drive?)
- Auracle 1y agoI can’t image that’d work well when child/booster seats are involved - which is probably why most cars don’t have rear heated seats.
- WorldMaker 1y agoSeems like an engineering problem that could be fixed with smarter controls. The Jaguars I've been in don't turn on rear passenger seat heating automatically and instead it is an easy to find button for the rear passenger with long enough arms.
- Auracle 1y agoI don't mean it turning on automatically, just that it's a waste of money when most people probably use their rear seats for children (or cargo).
- assassinator42 1y agoFor my 2016 Volt I need to run the defroster to be able to actually see out of the window though. And that takes around 4KW on average. I can get less than half the range on cold days in the winter (65 MPGe) vs the maximum in the summer (140 MPGe)