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IMHO USA is still the best in many of those things, it's just that its no longer uncontested. USA is going through the stage all the former European empires wen

by mrtksn 1y ago

IMHO USA is still the best in many of those things, it's just that its no longer uncontested. USA is going through the stage all the former European empires went through. You are even trying to do the nationalism thing which by itself means if you adopt it you will become a nation instead of an empire and instead of doing global stuff you will do what a nation of 340M people do. All those isolationist stuff, identity crisis etc. looks like post-imperial Europe to me. Sometimes I wonder if USA is trying to do soft-transition from being global superpower empire into a largish country like on of the others. I just can't see the mechanism where all that can be orchestrated, so maybe it's not orchestrated but because US have only 2 neighbors and they are well behaved the US empire isn't going down with a huge war but its just pulling back as it is contested.

immibis 1y ago
Is self-destruction a soft transition?
cjblomqvist 1y ago
The UK (empire) didn't go down in a big war (although they fought in several, that also threatened them). It seems wars are definitely not needed for the transition to a nation rather then empire. I'd say wars have historically been a part of all nations/geographical areas more or less continuously - and empires are more inclined to participate due to 1) being bigger and 2) thinking there's more to gain from those wars (usually due to capability/likelihood of winning).
- mrtksn 1y ago
  Maybe being an island helps, maybe the WW1, WW2 and other conflicts were the process of downfall of the British empire I'm not too sure about it but after centuries of global European dominance Europe(including UK and the Turks) ended up transforming into something completely different than their glory days and its alright. Similarly, maybe the conflicts US was involved last 30+ were the wars that broke the empire? Personally, I'm looking forward to a world where our planet belongs to all of us and we are not limited by borders and not dying for the careers of politicians. IMHO the technology has advanced enough and the resource scarcity and most issues are artificial.

by mrtksn 1y ago

immibis 1y ago

Is self-destruction a soft transition?

cjblomqvist 1y ago

The UK (empire) didn't go down in a big war (although they fought in several, that also threatened them). It seems wars are definitely not needed for the transition to a nation rather then empire. I'd say wars have historically been a part of all nations/geographical areas more or less continuously - and empires are more inclined to participate due to 1) being bigger and 2) thinking there's more to gain from those wars (usually due to capability/likelihood of winning).

mrtksn 1y ago
Maybe being an island helps, maybe the WW1, WW2 and other conflicts were the process of downfall of the British empire I'm not too sure about it but after centuries of global European dominance Europe(including UK and the Turks) ended up transforming into something completely different than their glory days and its alright. Similarly, maybe the conflicts US was involved last 30+ were the wars that broke the empire? Personally, I'm looking forward to a world where our planet belongs to all of us and we are not limited by borders and not dying for the careers of politicians. IMHO the technology has advanced enough and the resource scarcity and most issues are artificial.