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>And even there, I bet ChatGPT would have told you to go see a doctor So what is the value add of ChatGPT in this scenario? Either it says you don't need to s
by slg 1y ago
>And even there, I bet ChatGPT would have told you to go see a doctor
So what is the value add of ChatGPT in this scenario? Either it says you don't need to see the doctor which could very well kill you or it tells you to visit the doctor and it doesn't actually help you in any way.
- nerdsniper 1y agoThe value-add would be getting my insurance to approve me to go see a "specialist" (the urologist) immediately rather than forcing me to schedule an appointment with my primary-care doctor first, paying $200 for the office visit, and delaying care by 2 weeks. So, a technical solution to a bureaucratic problem. Also, even when I'm on a PPO plan instead of HMO...I know when I have a yeast infection. I don't want to pay $100 to tell a doctor that I have a yeast infection. They don't even look at my genitals - they just take my word for it. But I can't buy fluconazole without a prescription. Such a waste of everyone's time and my money. So again, a technical solution to a bureaucratic problem.
- trollbridge 1y agoGet a PPO plan, then? I can go directly to any specialist I want, although I find it’s better to always talk to my PCP first, who then makes a referral and often recommends the specialist she prefers. (If your HMO charges $200 for a PCP visit - wow, I’d look for a different plan.)
- nerdsniper 1y agoMy second example was specifically called out as an example of an issue even with PPO's. Also, not everyone (including myself) can easily change jobs or get insurance that simply isn't even offered by the employer. Worth noting that in my state for example, none of the public ACA health insurance options are a PPO.
- trollbridge 1y agoYeah, it's true that a lot of ACA plans are quite poor right now. The subsidy often isn't really worth it compared to a non-ACA plan.
- slg 1y agoThat isn’t value created by the AI, it is valued bestowed on it by your insurance company. They could bestow that same value on a Google search or a call center worker in Southeast Asia and it would provide you the same value. The AI is just making an already convoluted system more convoluted.
- edanm 1y agoYou're missing the case of it telling you not to see a doctor and it's right, in which you save a lot of time (and potentially money). Mistakes will happen, that's the nature of statistics of this nature. But don't forget that saving 1,000s of people time is worth something, even if you never directly see it like you do the one case that it didn't catch.
- slg 1y ago> But don't forget that saving 1,000s of people time is worth something How many unnecessary deaths does that buy you?
- edanm 1y agoI don't know. But pretending there are no tradeoffs is stupid, and also disconnected from reality.
- slg 1y ago>I don't know. Which invalidates the whole point. There are countless ways that the healthcare industry could save time if it was willing to sacrifice an unknown number of lives. How is this scenario any different from some other arbitrary decision made for the sake of expediency such as doctors deciding to no longer collect medical histories from new patients? Think of all the time that could be saved if you never had to fill out those forms the first time you saw a doctor. Who cares if that leads to more people dying, it saves some time!
- senordevnyc 1y agoWe’re discussing this on a thread about an attempt to answer that question!
- edanm 1y agoWhen I say "I don't know", it means I genuinely don't know. Obviously, since this is a new technology, it's possible that it is better than doing arbitrary things like saying that people shouldn't fill out forms anymore. You're saying "some change is bad therefore all changes are bad", which is obviously fallacious.