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pixl97 1y ago
While previous is an over reactions, the wild west free for all we have is also a problem. At the end of the day the masses will finally get tired of the fuckery of programmers doing whatever they want and start putting laws in place, and the laws will be passed by the stupidest people among us. Programmers now should start looking into standards of professional behaviors before they are forced on them by law.
- yamazakiwi 1y ago
  The problem isn't that anyone has access to programming, it's that corporate incentives prioritize profit over quality, security, and ethics. And sure, if your follow-up is "that won’t change," I get it, but that doesn’t mean the open nature of programming is the problem. >At the end of the day the masses will finally get tired of the fuckery of programmers doing whatever they want and start putting laws in place, and the laws will be passed by the stupidest people among us. I agree laws will pass eventually but it won't start from the people. They rarely even think or hear about software security as something other than an amorphous boogie man, and there are no repercussions so any voices are easily forgotten. Eventually, it will be some big tech corp executive or politician moving into government convincing them to create a security auditing authority to extract money from these companies and/or shut them down. I'm sure we can find some holier than thou types to fill chairs with security auditors for the new "SSC" once it's greenlit.
GuinansEyebrows 1y ago
We could probably stand to stop treating software engineering like some holy calling for geniuses only and start treating it for what it is: a skilled trade that can be regulated and accredited like all the rest of them. It's really not a wild idea and it wouldn't stop kids (or anyone, really) from learning on their own. My parents taught me how to use tools as a kid and I learned how to fix my own toilet, but I didn't decide that made me qualified to go start plumbing professionally without apprenticing first.
- yamazakiwi 1y ago
  I completely agree! Thank you for this

pixl97 1y ago

While previous is an over reactions, the wild west free for all we have is also a problem. At the end of the day the masses will finally get tired of the fuckery of programmers doing whatever they want and start putting laws in place, and the laws will be passed by the stupidest people among us. Programmers now should start looking into standards of professional behaviors before they are forced on them by law.

yamazakiwi 1y ago
The problem isn't that anyone has access to programming, it's that corporate incentives prioritize profit over quality, security, and ethics. And sure, if your follow-up is "that won’t change," I get it, but that doesn’t mean the open nature of programming is the problem. >At the end of the day the masses will finally get tired of the fuckery of programmers doing whatever they want and start putting laws in place, and the laws will be passed by the stupidest people among us. I agree laws will pass eventually but it won't start from the people. They rarely even think or hear about software security as something other than an amorphous boogie man, and there are no repercussions so any voices are easily forgotten. Eventually, it will be some big tech corp executive or politician moving into government convincing them to create a security auditing authority to extract money from these companies and/or shut them down. I'm sure we can find some holier than thou types to fill chairs with security auditors for the new "SSC" once it's greenlit.

GuinansEyebrows 1y ago

We could probably stand to stop treating software engineering like some holy calling for geniuses only and start treating it for what it is: a skilled trade that can be regulated and accredited like all the rest of them. It's really not a wild idea and it wouldn't stop kids (or anyone, really) from learning on their own. My parents taught me how to use tools as a kid and I learned how to fix my own toilet, but I didn't decide that made me qualified to go start plumbing professionally without apprenticing first.

yamazakiwi 1y ago
I completely agree! Thank you for this