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making excuses for the Wagner Militia really is not the takeaway you want from this one
by nemo 1y ago
making excuses for the Wagner Militia really is not the takeaway you want from this one
- aatd86 1y agoWhere am I making excuses? The point is you can't criticize others when you do the same exact thing you are criticizing. Beyond that it's also legitimate to doubt the info one gets from people who are obviously hypocritical. That's all.
- nickff 1y agoYou’re engaging in ‘whataboutism’; if you’d like to discuss the Wagner Group, you should post something about them instead.
- aatd86 1y agoDrawing a legitimate parallel and questioning the legitimacy of what we know and what we are being told is hardly 'whataboutism'. Especially when it might be geo-strategic. I find your accusation severe. The news colported these past few years should already have opened some eyes normally. Alas... Said otherwise, if you're a thief accusing someone else of stealing, I can legitimately wonder if you're making accusations in good faith... That simple. Isn't there a saying for this even? The pot that calls the kettle black?
- nickff 1y agoThe journalists covering these stories are not members of the armed forces responsible for the actions you're talking about; they're not even government employees. It would be one thing if the SBS members accused of crimes were the ones criticizing Wagner, but that's not what's going on here.
- aatd86 1y agoThere must have been a misunderstanding. I wasn't speaking about the journalists. They are doing their reporting as they should.
- nickff 1y agoThen (specifically) who do you think is being hypocritical?
- aatd86 1y agoSome army officers and potentially those who rely on the information they provide.
- nickff 1y agoI have not seen any British Army officers criticizing Wagner's war crimes while protecting the SBS from similar accusations, though I'd agree that would be hypocritical. That being said, the OP is not about those people, it's about a whistle-blower, and completely unrelated to Wagner.
- aatd86 1y agoI wasn't targeting the SAS specifically. This seems to be pervasive across armies. Just read the Human Rights Watch reports.