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Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for lunch.

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delecti 1y ago
It's more like a 9 sheep and a wolf with a great PR firm who convinced 5 sheep to vote against the other 4 for lunch plans. Those 5 sheep aren't going to come out of this any better than the 4 of us.
manishsharan 1y ago
This is a lazy argument. It only serves to dissuade the masses from doing critical thinking and analyzing party platforms. It also explains why blue collar Americans vote for tax breaks for billionaires and union busting legislation.
- kevin_thibedeau 1y ago
  One party doesn't actually have a platform and they've abandoned all the principles in their past platforms. Now it's just agree to whatever one deranged person cooks up in his head after watching TV.
insane_dreamer 1y ago
I'm getting tired of this whataboutism. We did not have an almost daily turmoil of shit happening in 2021-2024.
- Spivak 1y ago
  One of the biggest accolades Biden got for a lot of people was they got 4 years of being able to turn off the news and nothing was on fire. His critics might have called him sleepy Joe (despite his administration being quite prolific) but it terms of normalcy and the government not constantly meddling in your life and business he did a bang up job.
- soulofmischief 1y ago
  No, just genocide as usual, a few proxy wars, typical neoliberal US foreign politics, and then a threat to the American public that if we didn't allow business as usual to continue unabated, we would experience domestic hardship through Trump.
  - insane_dreamer 1y ago
    > just genocide as usual, a few proxy wars, typical neoliberal US foreign politics that's all terrible stuff but the reality is all that has been happening almost non-stop since the 50s. US foreign policy has always been a shit-show. what we're seeing today is an extra thick layer of daily bshit on top of the usual layer > a threat to the American public that if we didn't allow business as usual to continue unabated, we would experience domestic hardship through Trump which turned out to be even more true than anyone thought was possible
    - soulofmischief 1y ago
      > US foreign policy has always been a shit-show Yes, that's why I said as usual and typical. > what we're seeing today is an extra thick layer of daily bshit on top of the usual layer No, as far as foreign politics it's really same shit different day, we're siding with dictators and meddling with other countries' affairs, economically bullying other countries... Just more out in the open now, and with a somewhat different set of dictators. The only material difference is that Trump's mission is to weaken our global supremacy, which is a mixed bag, as some of that supremacy should indeed go away, but tariffs etc are not the fucking answer. > which turned out to be even more true than anyone thought was possible I thought it was going to be even worse. We still have 4 years to find out how bad it gets.
autoexec 1y ago
Are king wolves any better?

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It's more like a 9 sheep and a wolf with a great PR firm who convinced 5 sheep to vote against the other 4 for lunch plans. Those 5 sheep aren't going to come out of this any better than the 4 of us.

manishsharan 1y ago

This is a lazy argument. It only serves to dissuade the masses from doing critical thinking and analyzing party platforms. It also explains why blue collar Americans vote for tax breaks for billionaires and union busting legislation.

kevin_thibedeau 1y ago
One party doesn't actually have a platform and they've abandoned all the principles in their past platforms. Now it's just agree to whatever one deranged person cooks up in his head after watching TV.

insane_dreamer 1y ago

I'm getting tired of this whataboutism. We did not have an almost daily turmoil of shit happening in 2021-2024.

Spivak 1y ago
One of the biggest accolades Biden got for a lot of people was they got 4 years of being able to turn off the news and nothing was on fire. His critics might have called him sleepy Joe (despite his administration being quite prolific) but it terms of normalcy and the government not constantly meddling in your life and business he did a bang up job.
soulofmischief 1y ago
No, just genocide as usual, a few proxy wars, typical neoliberal US foreign politics, and then a threat to the American public that if we didn't allow business as usual to continue unabated, we would experience domestic hardship through Trump.
- insane_dreamer 1y ago
  > just genocide as usual, a few proxy wars, typical neoliberal US foreign politics that's all terrible stuff but the reality is all that has been happening almost non-stop since the 50s. US foreign policy has always been a shit-show. what we're seeing today is an extra thick layer of daily bshit on top of the usual layer > a threat to the American public that if we didn't allow business as usual to continue unabated, we would experience domestic hardship through Trump which turned out to be even more true than anyone thought was possible
  - soulofmischief 1y ago
    > US foreign policy has always been a shit-show Yes, that's why I said as usual and typical. > what we're seeing today is an extra thick layer of daily bshit on top of the usual layer No, as far as foreign politics it's really same shit different day, we're siding with dictators and meddling with other countries' affairs, economically bullying other countries... Just more out in the open now, and with a somewhat different set of dictators. The only material difference is that Trump's mission is to weaken our global supremacy, which is a mixed bag, as some of that supremacy should indeed go away, but tariffs etc are not the fucking answer. > which turned out to be even more true than anyone thought was possible I thought it was going to be even worse. We still have 4 years to find out how bad it gets.

autoexec 1y ago

Are king wolves any better?