> It will be done by xmas or it won't. You claim to be talking about estimation, but I believe that you're actually talking about being given unrealistic, non-

> It will be done by xmas or it won't. You claim to be talking about estimation, but I believe that you're actually talking about being given unrealistic, non-negotiable deadlines. (How did we know that the estimate was unrealistic, you ask? We did an estimate.)