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I’m also sure that it won’t be made illegal but I don’t share the cynicism. Google ‘losing’ the record of their training data would be conspiracy to commit copy

I’m also sure that it won’t be made illegal but I don’t share the cynicism. Google ‘losing’ the record of their training data would be conspiracy to commit copyright fraud, and AI trained overseas that violated copyrights could be banned from import.

londons_explore 1y ago
> could be banned from import. But as an API hosted abroad? Doubt there is sufficient justification to ban it, especially when evidence of copyright infringement isn't easy to get.
londons_explore 1y ago
Plenty of companies deliberately don't keep records of dodgy things they do... For example many companies have a shortish retention period for emails ever since 2012 era executive emails ended up in courtrooms... Or the decision not to record phone calls... Both of which, by chance, Google does.
troyvit 1y ago
They've been accused by the previous Justice Department of similar things and have settled for similar things in the past: https://insights.issgovernance.com/posts/google-parent-alphabet-agrees-to-pay-shareholders-350-million-over-data-leak/ https://insights.issgovernance.com/posts/google-parent-alpha... > Google’s parent company Alphabet Inc. agreed to a $350 million tentative settlement resolving allegations it concealed data-security vulnerabilities in the now-shuttered Google + social network. The settlement will become the largest data privacy and cyber-security-related securities class action ever recorded by ISS SCAS, if approved. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-under-doj-scanner-allegedly-153208672.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-under-doj-scanner-alle... > The Justice Department said Alphabet Inc (NASDAQ: GOOG) (NASDAQ: GOOGL) Google destroyed written records pivotal to an antitrust lawsuit on preserving its internet search dominance, the Wall Street Journal reports. Whether it's copyright fraud or another kind of fraud, I share the parent's cynicism, especially with AI given the importance Google peeps like Eric Schmidt place in "winning" the AI race (https://futurism.com/google-ceo-congress-electricity-ai-superintelligence https://futurism.com/google-ceo-congress-electricity-ai-supe...).

londons_explore 1y ago

> could be banned from import. But as an API hosted abroad? Doubt there is sufficient justification to ban it, especially when evidence of copyright infringement isn't easy to get.

londons_explore 1y ago

Plenty of companies deliberately don't keep records of dodgy things they do... For example many companies have a shortish retention period for emails ever since 2012 era executive emails ended up in courtrooms... Or the decision not to record phone calls... Both of which, by chance, Google does.

troyvit 1y ago

They've been accused by the previous Justice Department of similar things and have settled for similar things in the past: https://insights.issgovernance.com/posts/google-parent-alphabet-agrees-to-pay-shareholders-350-million-over-data-leak/ https://insights.issgovernance.com/posts/google-parent-alpha... > Google’s parent company Alphabet Inc. agreed to a $350 million tentative settlement resolving allegations it concealed data-security vulnerabilities in the now-shuttered Google + social network. The settlement will become the largest data privacy and cyber-security-related securities class action ever recorded by ISS SCAS, if approved. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-under-doj-scanner-allegedly-153208672.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/google-under-doj-scanner-alle... > The Justice Department said Alphabet Inc (NASDAQ: GOOG) (NASDAQ: GOOGL) Google destroyed written records pivotal to an antitrust lawsuit on preserving its internet search dominance, the Wall Street Journal reports. Whether it's copyright fraud or another kind of fraud, I share the parent's cynicism, especially with AI given the importance Google peeps like Eric Schmidt place in "winning" the AI race (https://futurism.com/google-ceo-congress-electricity-ai-superintelligence https://futurism.com/google-ceo-congress-electricity-ai-supe...).