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Can you show that the left-wing politics added up to 55% of the NSF's total budget and stretched across all 37 of its directorates? Because those are what's ge

Can you show that the left-wing politics added up to 55% of the NSF's total budget and stretched across all 37 of its directorates? Because those are what's getting cut.

fsckboy 1y ago
>Can you show that the left-wing politics added up to 55% of the NSF's total budget 55% of academia left-wing and/or marketing to left wing bureaucrats? is that even not possible? that was true in the Reagan era before the Clinton era put it on steroids.
- eli_gottlieb 1y ago
  Ok, so show me, using the sources given above and available via the NSF website, that 55% of the NSF's total budget is spent promoting left-wing politics instead of real science.
  - fsckboy 1y ago
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    - eli_gottlieb 1y ago
      > you believe that evidence is important. I have not declared that If you wanna believe government rationales for their actions until proven otherwise, you go ahead with that. Sucker.
fallingknife 1y ago
Is that your standard here? It has to be 55% to be a problem? If someone working for me diverted 1% of their company budget to political nonsense then that would be their last act as an employee. If you are mandated to spend taxpayer money on science and you spend any of it on garbage like that, you are stealing from the public.
- anonymousDan 1y ago
  So people with a Latin background are not part of the public?
  - tristor 1y ago
    > So people with a Latin background are not part of the public? Hispanic people don't like being called "latinx" so anything with that word in it is pretty much automatically invalidated as being credulent, especially if it is purporting to be helping people when they're colonizing their language. The person you're responding to is way overplaying their case, though, most of the funding that was cut wasn't DEI related, but let's also be serious people here.
    - ModernMech 1y ago
      I don't think it's so cut and dry. Program Manager: Alicia Santiago Gonzalez Veronica Garcia-Luis (Principal Investigator) Moreover you're assuming a lot from just a title.
      - tristor 1y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latinx#Among_US_Hispanics/Latinos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latinx#Among_US_Hispanics/Lati... It's language colonization. The correct term, if there is even a need for an alternative for "latino" is "latine", which has existed in Spanish for thousands of years.
        ModernMech 1y ago
        "language colonization" sounds pretty woke to me, I think I've lost the plot. I thought we were trying to get rid of woke. Now we are getting rid of "language colonizers" because their terms are wrong? I thought we were going back to a meritocracy, where people are judged on the merits of their ideas. You read a word and concluded a lot. It's interesting -- I was in a thread with someone else lamenting it's so hard to get funding if you go against the establishment. Now you're telling me this research shouldn't have been funded because it uses a term that goes against the established term. I think that really highlights the challenges in science funding.

Can you show that the left-wing politics added up to 55% of the NSF's total budget and stretched across all 37 of its directorates? Because those are what's getting cut.

fsckboy 1y ago

>Can you show that the left-wing politics added up to 55% of the NSF's total budget 55% of academia left-wing and/or marketing to left wing bureaucrats? is that even not possible? that was true in the Reagan era before the Clinton era put it on steroids.

eli_gottlieb 1y ago
Ok, so show me, using the sources given above and available via the NSF website, that 55% of the NSF's total budget is spent promoting left-wing politics instead of real science.
- fsckboy 1y ago
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  - eli_gottlieb 1y ago
    > you believe that evidence is important. I have not declared that If you wanna believe government rationales for their actions until proven otherwise, you go ahead with that. Sucker.

fallingknife 1y ago

Is that your standard here? It has to be 55% to be a problem? If someone working for me diverted 1% of their company budget to political nonsense then that would be their last act as an employee. If you are mandated to spend taxpayer money on science and you spend any of it on garbage like that, you are stealing from the public.

anonymousDan 1y ago
So people with a Latin background are not part of the public?
- tristor 1y ago
  > So people with a Latin background are not part of the public? Hispanic people don't like being called "latinx" so anything with that word in it is pretty much automatically invalidated as being credulent, especially if it is purporting to be helping people when they're colonizing their language. The person you're responding to is way overplaying their case, though, most of the funding that was cut wasn't DEI related, but let's also be serious people here.
  - ModernMech 1y ago
    I don't think it's so cut and dry. Program Manager: Alicia Santiago Gonzalez Veronica Garcia-Luis (Principal Investigator) Moreover you're assuming a lot from just a title.
    - tristor 1y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latinx#Among_US_Hispanics/Latinos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latinx#Among_US_Hispanics/Lati... It's language colonization. The correct term, if there is even a need for an alternative for "latino" is "latine", which has existed in Spanish for thousands of years.
      - ModernMech 1y ago
        "language colonization" sounds pretty woke to me, I think I've lost the plot. I thought we were trying to get rid of woke. Now we are getting rid of "language colonizers" because their terms are wrong? I thought we were going back to a meritocracy, where people are judged on the merits of their ideas. You read a word and concluded a lot. It's interesting -- I was in a thread with someone else lamenting it's so hard to get funding if you go against the establishment. Now you're telling me this research shouldn't have been funded because it uses a term that goes against the established term. I think that really highlights the challenges in science funding.