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Before adopting programming as my job and passion, I was a professional actor and I plan on continuing to act professionally when I move back to to a place wher
by randomdrake 14y ago
Before adopting programming as my job and passion, I was a professional actor and I plan on continuing to act professionally when I move back to to a place where it is more avaialble. Working professionally in many capacities for many years, I can tell you that luck certainly helps, for some people. This author completely discounts artists who trained, worked and pushed themselves for years and years to get where they are: regularly hired for awesome roles, being paid well, and doing it professionally day after day for their livelihood.
The fact is that pretty much every successful novelist, every successful pop star, every successful artist is successful mainly because of luck. Oftentimes there’s skill involved too, but if you look hard enough, you’ll find just as much skill in the millions of unsuccessful strivers as you do in the tiny set of people who make it huge.
There are a few things I find very wrong with this paragraph:
1) The definition of success. Even under the assumption of monetary gain, this just isn't a good statement. Success, for an artist can be measured in many other ways. That aside: plenty of successful actors got to where they were because they tried harder than others. They showed up to more auditions than others. They worked hard training themselves in schools or other avenues. They were simply better at the profession with a greater understanding of how to get hired. This brings me to my next point.
2) Just as much skill in the millions of unsuccessful strivers.
This statement is just not true. You will only find handfuls of people that are capable of pulling off, even basic, performances necessary for a professional venue. They are the exceptions and they are skilled and talented. They get work because of this uniqueness. They don't appear in shows over and over again because they are lucky, they appear because they present artistic, or even monetary, value to the production.
I appreciated and enjoyed reading the article but the definitive nature of the statements from the author regarding "pretty much every" successful artist didn't sit well with me.
For the reasons that the author illustrated earlier in the article, yes people do get lucky. But I don't think the conclusions are appropriate to apply to the skillsets of artists in this way.
Artists can, and do, achieve successes on their own accord without lady luck. Sure, luck is helpful but for every 1 successful Hollywood star, there are scores of other successful artists working because they are simply better and more talented. You may never see these people on the silver screen. They are successful; in their own minds, and the minds of artists. All of this without regard to an agreed upon definition of success.
- waterlesscloud 14y agoI pretty much agree. There's definitely a factor of luck in hitting the gigantic jackpots in entertainment, but I think it's a lot less of a factor than is commonly imagined. I selected films for a mid-sized film festival in Los Angeles for a couple of years. I watched thousands of films, and in the end I still ended up getting desperate for great films by the end of it. A friend of mine selects for Sundance, and even there he says the same thing. There's not a lot of great undiscovered talent out there. There may be a lot of undeveloped talent, but that's because the people who have it haven't put in the time to develop it. It's tough but true.
- randomdrake 14y agoThanks for your additional insight. I really like your statement about there being less of an undiscovered talent market and perhaps more of an undeveloped talent market. Rings true in so many professions. I am not sure if there is good data to back up this assertion, or if it is just perspective, but I certainly find a lot of truth in your observation.
- thenomad 14y agoI'm a professional film director. I also agree 100% with this statement. There is a huge variance in skill in all the creative professions. I've had the opportunity to work with some extremely well-known actors. Within five minutes of starting working with them, it was obvious why they were so well-known - their skill at the craft was, to a man/woman, extraordinary. That's something I've found to be the case in other contractors on films, too. Most of the time, in my experience, the 3D artists who get the top jobs or command the highest contracting fees are the most skilled and the easiest to work with, for example. If you want a really good basic guide to success in the creative arts, I recommend Neil Gaiman's University of the Arts speech: http://vimeo.com/42372767 http://vimeo.com/42372767
- randomdrake 14y agoLove this speech. Thanks for linking it to the discussion. Neil Gaiman is incredibly talented and very intelligent. I was pleasantly surprised, the first time I saw this, by how good of an orator he is. That was my first exposure to him, outside of his comic books, and I found it very moving. Highly suggest this speech for anyone; creative arts or otherwise.