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>First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. It would appear that App.net is now at stage two.
by brianwillis 14y ago
>First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
It would appear that App.net is now at stage two.
- thinkingisfun 14y agoWhen one of those things occur in isolation, that doesn't automatically mean you're fighting for truth. For example, app.net was never in the being ignored phase, it's got plenty of hype and it doesn't even exist yet. Also, there's plenty of things that get mocked and nothing more. Sometimes laughter results from fear, sometimes it just results from genuinely finding something hilarious. But thanks for comparing app.net with Gandhi, that just made it funnier :P
- sankara 14y agoI'm sorry, can't refrain from correcting you. It's Gandhi not Ghandi. And I see this mistake very prevalent.
- unimpressive 14y ago> And I see this mistake very prevalent. Oh the irony.
- Monkeyget 14y agohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphrys_law http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphrys_law
- ctdonath 14y agoMurphy was misquoted.
- superchink 14y agoFrom the linked article on wikipedia: “Not to be confused with Murphy's law.” Muphry's Law is something different (yet related).
- thinkingisfun 14y agoNo need to apologize, thanks actually. I wish people would correct grammar more often, certainly mine, and doubly so when it comes to names.. why get used to writing stuff wrong, when I can get used to writing them right :)
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- nl 14y agowhy get used to writing stuff wrong, when I can get used to writing them right In that case.... "wrong" and "right" are adjectives, while "writing" is a verb which you are using the words "wrong" and "right" to modify. However, adjectives should only be used to modify nouns and pronouns, not verbs. In this case you should use an adverb: why get used to writing stuff incorrectly, when I can get used to writing them correctly If you prefer, you can use "writing" as a noun and continue to use "right" and "wrong": why get used to the wrong way of writing when I can get used to the right way I hate people who correct grammar on the internet, but you did make the mistake of asking. Sorry.
- thinkingisfun 14y agoWhy, I thank you! But I will also have you know that "Sorry." is a sentence fragment. When correcting others, you should always try to correct them rightly, not wrongly, even if it may sound odd sometimes. (tee-hee :)
- eavc 14y agoIn case you intended to take that advice to heart, you can use 'right' and 'wrong' as adverbs in all but the most formal contexts, and possibly even then too. They're called 'flat adverbs,' and there's a great video post from MW that you can find if you Google the term.
- eavc 14y agoThose are flat adverbs, actually. :p
- dasil003 14y agoThe mistake is prevalent. or You see this mistake frequently. I don't normally do these corrections, but I can't help myself in this case.
- Kiro 14y agoAnd they will never get past that. I wouldn't mind it being stuck in stage one though. All the App.net spam has seriously degraded the HN quality overnight.
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- dasil003 14y agoOh come on, it's not that bad. There's never more than a few articles at once, and it's a legitimate hacker topic since anyone would have to be a fool to build on Twitter these days, and yet it is a very ripe API that people want to build on.
- uncoder0 14y agoI think you are right. People want to build on App.net. The problem is ~10,000 people have signed up and there are already ~100 apps for app.net[1]. To me that sounds like a developer circle-jerk. Developers and other technophiles typically have disposable income, love to bash incumbents and jump on the next bandwagon. App.net satisfies all of those desires. It will be interested to see if anyone else really cares. I just don't think trading one man's walled garden for another is what we need. We need an email-like solution to this problem. Something open and federated. [1]https://github.com/appdotnet/api-spec/wiki/Directory-of-third-party-devs-and-apps https://github.com/appdotnet/api-spec/wiki/Directory-of-thir...
- Kiro 14y agoIt's not just articles. App.net pops up in almost every comment thread about anything even remotely related to social networks.
- danielweber 14y agoAt least I know what app.net is. There are so many new things mentioned on HN every week that it's hard to keep up. Oh, CloudPython is up to version 2.1 you say? And now it supports 50% more bogons? Wow!
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- scoith 14y agoAnd sometimes they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they forget all about you.
- tomku 14y agoIndeed, that line of argument is a form of the Galileo gambit[1], which is just a way to rationalize ridicule or criticism by claiming an unfounded correlation between opposition and eventual victory. Yes, many people who eventually succeed are criticized or laughed at initially - but people who eventually fail are often criticized or laughed at initially as well. [1]: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Galileo_gambit http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Galileo_gambit
- ralmeida 14y agoThe original reasoning can also be interpreted as an instance of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_bias http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_bias
- guscost 14y agoHahahaha!!!
- neutronicus 14y agoSurvivor bias.
- zem 14y agoThe fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. -- Carl Sagan, "Broca's Brain"