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> Remove the LTE chip You can't, it's required for eCall which is a mandatory feature in Europe. Unfortunately, it's fraught with issues, especially for the v
by mschuster91 1y ago
> Remove the LTE chip
You can't, it's required for eCall which is a mandatory feature in Europe.
Unfortunately, it's fraught with issues, especially for the very first eCall modules where the hardware supported only 3G (HSPA)... which is being phased out across Europe together with GPRS (1G)/EDGE (2G), leaving these cars without a working eCall system - and no upgraded hardware modules in many cases.
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- ryanbrunner 1y agoWouldn't be the first or the last time that a car has a different build out for different locales - as differences go, that's pretty minor.
- mulmen 1y agoOk but that doesn’t really solve the problem in Europe.
- lukan 1y agoI mean we can also change laws again in europe (in favour of that) - but we could also keep it as a separate module. So the LTE chip only gets used for an emergency call and nothing else. No remote control. Unlikely to happen, but possible (not 100% safe, but good enough).
- mulmen 1y agoOk but if you change the laws then you don’t need a different build.
- lukan 1y agoWas my sentence that unclear? I constructed it as a OR. Either change the laws (my favourite solution as I don't like enforced modification of my car) - or use a technical solution to just meet the law.
- vv_ 1y agoIf you don't turn on the LTE chip, it can take a while to get registered or a network in order to perform an emergency call. If the LTE module is turned on (the same applies for mobile phones) the network operator will know your coarse location because of the LTE specification itself. Furthermore, all communication equipment is legally required to support Lawful Interception; and LTE is no exception to this.
- lukan 1y agoYes, that is sadly true, but they have that data via smartphones anyway. But remote controlling the car is something different.
- paulddraper 1y ago> required That’s…terrible
- ratatoskrt 1y ago...why? Seems pretty sensible to me?
- kortilla 1y agoSome people don’t like built in trackers
- rad_gruchalski 1y agoIt's not a tracker. It activates during an accident, or via manual action. Hopefully those same people know what ANPR is and how does it affect them.
- mousethatroared 1y agoOf course it is. We're just told differently until a leaker proves differently. Twenty years too late to do anything about it
- rad_gruchalski 1y agoThere are so many things in a modern car that track you. eCall is the smallest problem.
- koolba 1y agoIndeed there are: https://medium.com/@doctoreww/day-2-your-car-is-trackable-by-law-1d5f74388850 https://medium.com/@doctoreww/day-2-your-car-is-trackable-by... And “modern” is going back over a decade. So most cars on the road.
- mousethatroared 1y ago
- therein 1y agoOops somehow a switch has attached itself to the fuse of the LTE module in my vehicle.
- barbazoo 1y agoNice. I wish mine had a dedicated fuse for that.
- cryptonector 1y agowire snips enter the chat
- mschuster91 1y agoWon't work if the cellular modem is powered directly off the ECU's fuse or is embedded in the ECU itself.
- therein 1y agoYeah, would not. I am glad my 2025 vehicle has a fuse for the telematics module.