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Interestingly, I was going over this with my mother yesterday. I have enjoyed some renewed interest in astronomy, and I've chosen to ignore "traditional tropica

Interestingly, I was going over this with my mother yesterday. I have enjoyed some renewed interest in astronomy, and I've chosen to ignore "traditional tropical astrology" in terms of the traditional dates of "Sun signs". Instead, I'm going by the actual IAU-defined boundaries of the actual constellations, to determine the location of the Sun and other "astrological planets" at a given time. The apps I'm using, particularly Stellarium, support this identification by default. So just looking at Robert Prevost's birthday: Sept. 14, 1955, the Sun was actually in the IAU constellation of Leo at that time, and shall be, going forward from there. So it is very interesting. I doubt a Pope ever has a singular reason for choosing his regnal name, and while the influence of Leo XIII is undeniable, the enduring meanings and connotations of the name "Leo" also can't be ignored here. Ultimately it means "the lion" and, for me personally, this is a very exciting time to be alive, for both me and others!

mdp2021 1y ago
> the enduring meanings and connotations of the name The intentions behind some expression remain a privilege of its chooser - and I strongly doubt that the constellation can be as significant, behind the choice, as the recognition of the changes in the times and their consequences in society.
- AStonesThrow 1y ago
  > I strongly doubt Oh indeed; I definitely agree that his reasoning and motivation are merely an inch deep, and we must scrupulously avoid, when playing "inside baseball" with the Catholic Church, avoid going beyond the words which come out of his lips; we must avoid ascribing any deeper meanings or searching for enduring symbolism which has broader implications. The mainstream media is certainly the best, and perhaps only true interpreter of soundbites such as this one, and of course the most important link to a name such as "Leo" is a mostly obscure dude who lived 100 years ago. After all, the Catholic Church is only 2,000 years old and only comprises like 1.3 billion human beings. She is extremely superficial, and we mostly forget frivolous, silly things like the patterns of stars and the track of our local star, because those are now the realm of hard science, and nothing to do with mysticism or symbology, which again, must be discounted when we pay attention to the words coming out of his mouth and being relayed by the experts in mainstream media. Thank you for dispelling my ridiculous speculation: I was going to take it even further by exploring the Leo-"Lion" imagery and how powerful that can be, but of course we're examining a man and not a feline!
  - mdp2021 1y ago
    Your rhetoric is improductive. And do avoid attributing intentions to others - especially that twisted, and through obscure (non-)arguments. I simply factually suggested that it could be of interest to (re-)read the Rerum Novarum. If you want to raise points, do that clearly and logically. Avoid sarcasm in general, because you must not know this world if you thought that there are not people around which do believe or just claim any statement in ⊥ - anything you could state somebody else could state convinced and persuaded, so we cannot know if you are joking. And your jokes must be clear to have a reason to be here.

mdp2021 1y ago

> the enduring meanings and connotations of the name The intentions behind some expression remain a privilege of its chooser - and I strongly doubt that the constellation can be as significant, behind the choice, as the recognition of the changes in the times and their consequences in society.

AStonesThrow 1y ago
> I strongly doubt Oh indeed; I definitely agree that his reasoning and motivation are merely an inch deep, and we must scrupulously avoid, when playing "inside baseball" with the Catholic Church, avoid going beyond the words which come out of his lips; we must avoid ascribing any deeper meanings or searching for enduring symbolism which has broader implications. The mainstream media is certainly the best, and perhaps only true interpreter of soundbites such as this one, and of course the most important link to a name such as "Leo" is a mostly obscure dude who lived 100 years ago. After all, the Catholic Church is only 2,000 years old and only comprises like 1.3 billion human beings. She is extremely superficial, and we mostly forget frivolous, silly things like the patterns of stars and the track of our local star, because those are now the realm of hard science, and nothing to do with mysticism or symbology, which again, must be discounted when we pay attention to the words coming out of his mouth and being relayed by the experts in mainstream media. Thank you for dispelling my ridiculous speculation: I was going to take it even further by exploring the Leo-"Lion" imagery and how powerful that can be, but of course we're examining a man and not a feline!
- mdp2021 1y ago
  Your rhetoric is improductive. And do avoid attributing intentions to others - especially that twisted, and through obscure (non-)arguments. I simply factually suggested that it could be of interest to (re-)read the Rerum Novarum. If you want to raise points, do that clearly and logically. Avoid sarcasm in general, because you must not know this world if you thought that there are not people around which do believe or just claim any statement in ⊥ - anything you could state somebody else could state convinced and persuaded, so we cannot know if you are joking. And your jokes must be clear to have a reason to be here.