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> The people who have been prosecuted for torrenting were liable because torrent clients also upload, thereby making them go beyond merely accessing/using. It'

> The people who have been prosecuted for torrenting were liable because torrent clients also upload, thereby making them go beyond merely accessing/using. It's not clear why this would be a relevant distinction. If the use in question is fair use then copying is permitted. Why wouldn't this be the case for the person uploading the data as well as the person downloading it? Suppose you have a physical copy of a book and your friend wants a copy of a page for a use which is indisputably fair use, so you make a copy for them and give it to them for that purpose. How is that any different? > Claiming that those sites (ie. live soccer streams) is "learning" is a stretch. Wouldn't that depend on what the user is actually doing with it? If you're just watching the game with your friends, presumably not. If you're doing scientific research on sporting events and you need to run the video of every sporting event in the last 10 years through a computer for your study, maybe it is.

madeofpalk 2y ago
What fair use argument can be made for just having GameOfThrones.mp4 on my web server for people to download?
- pixxel 2y ago
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- sapphicsnail 2y ago
  These are arguments ai companies like meta have made to justify pirating material to train their models.
- AnthonyMouse 2y ago
  > What fair use argument can be made for just having GameOfThrones.mp4 on my web server for people to download? The server operator isn't the one using it. Is it possible for anyone to make any fair use of GameOfThrones.mp4? Presumably yes, under some set of circumstances. And then the server operator has put it there for the people who want to use it in that way. Some people might then use it in some other way, but some people might borrow a book from the library and then use it to author an infringing derivative work. Why should that be the responsibility of the library rather than the party using it in an infringing way?
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madeofpalk 2y ago

What fair use argument can be made for just having GameOfThrones.mp4 on my web server for people to download?

pixxel 2y ago
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sapphicsnail 2y ago
These are arguments ai companies like meta have made to justify pirating material to train their models.
AnthonyMouse 2y ago
> What fair use argument can be made for just having GameOfThrones.mp4 on my web server for people to download? The server operator isn't the one using it. Is it possible for anyone to make any fair use of GameOfThrones.mp4? Presumably yes, under some set of circumstances. And then the server operator has put it there for the people who want to use it in that way. Some people might then use it in some other way, but some people might borrow a book from the library and then use it to author an infringing derivative work. Why should that be the responsibility of the library rather than the party using it in an infringing way?
- thunderfork 1y ago
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