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> And being offline, lets say stuck in traffic and the phone battery is empty, is a welcome relief. Then sell your phone? Sorry to be dismissive, but you are

> And being offline, lets say stuck in traffic and the phone battery is empty, is a welcome relief. Then sell your phone? Sorry to be dismissive, but you are locked in a prison of your own making.

immibis 1y ago
Is the correct response to someone who hates their job, who happens to take a hike and enjoy nature once in a while, "why don't you go live in the woods then?"?
- seangrogg 1y ago
  Is it the wrong response? If they hate a job there's actual value in assessing whether they need it, especially if they could live life in a different environment they would enjoy with things made by their own hands.
  - cmonBro22 1y ago
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  - hanlonsrazor 1y ago
    There is value, yes. However, things are rarely so black and white as the commenter above you sees it wherein one could simply disconnect entirely. The reality of it is within our current zeitgeist the digital world is unavoidable - be it in the workplace, the condensation of our activities (incl. unavoidable ones- banking, etc) into apps on our phones. Of course this is barring the idea of withdrawing all ones savings and moving onto a farm and living off the land :D.
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lucianbr 1y ago
> Sorry to be dismissive Then don't be dismissive? Seriously, isn't this answer the exact application of your own philosophy?
cmonBro22 1y ago
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anzumitsu 1y ago
I think this is true to an extent and it’s good to take a step back and remind yourself that thing you think is making you miserable is ultimately a small square of metal and glass. But the actual situation is more complicated. Clearly phones have utility beyond being skinner boxes, the ability to contact your loved ones, navigate roads and transit systems, translate languages, retrieve information from the web, etc are all extremely useful and their absence would decrease your quality of life. But since that’s all bundled together with the stuff people find harmful you’re left in a constant struggle to only your device in a beneficial way. You can lock down your phone but that’s just a band-aid. If someone can figure out a “smart-ish” phone that does the things I listed above but not the harmful things I think there would be a real market for it.
DiscourseFan 1y ago
I don’t want to miss any slack notifications while I’m walking my dog
- npodbielski 1y ago
  Why?

> And being offline, lets say stuck in traffic and the phone battery is empty, is a welcome relief. Then sell your phone? Sorry to be dismissive, but you are locked in a prison of your own making.

immibis 1y ago

Is the correct response to someone who hates their job, who happens to take a hike and enjoy nature once in a while, "why don't you go live in the woods then?"?

seangrogg 1y ago
Is it the wrong response? If they hate a job there's actual value in assessing whether they need it, especially if they could live life in a different environment they would enjoy with things made by their own hands.
- cmonBro22 1y ago
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- hanlonsrazor 1y ago
  There is value, yes. However, things are rarely so black and white as the commenter above you sees it wherein one could simply disconnect entirely. The reality of it is within our current zeitgeist the digital world is unavoidable - be it in the workplace, the condensation of our activities (incl. unavoidable ones- banking, etc) into apps on our phones. Of course this is barring the idea of withdrawing all ones savings and moving onto a farm and living off the land :D.
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lucianbr 1y ago

> Sorry to be dismissive Then don't be dismissive? Seriously, isn't this answer the exact application of your own philosophy?

cmonBro22 1y ago

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anzumitsu 1y ago

I think this is true to an extent and it’s good to take a step back and remind yourself that thing you think is making you miserable is ultimately a small square of metal and glass. But the actual situation is more complicated. Clearly phones have utility beyond being skinner boxes, the ability to contact your loved ones, navigate roads and transit systems, translate languages, retrieve information from the web, etc are all extremely useful and their absence would decrease your quality of life. But since that’s all bundled together with the stuff people find harmful you’re left in a constant struggle to only your device in a beneficial way. You can lock down your phone but that’s just a band-aid. If someone can figure out a “smart-ish” phone that does the things I listed above but not the harmful things I think there would be a real market for it.

DiscourseFan 1y ago

I don’t want to miss any slack notifications while I’m walking my dog

npodbielski 1y ago
Why?