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> high school educated people are increasingly useless to our economy. That seems like a silly statement. The jobs that most college graduates are fighting for
by randomdata 14y ago
> high school educated people are increasingly useless to our economy.
That seems like a silly statement. The jobs that most college graduates are fighting for were once, and often still are, done quite successfully by high school educated people. It is not that education matters in the workplace, it is just that the demand for those jobs has kept people trying to increasingly outdo everyone else in order to get the job. Education has been an easy way to do that.
Education doubly serves as an easy filter. You have probably heard your parents say something like "in my day you only needed high school." That is because there were less high school graduates during that time. If you threw away the resumes without high school, you could pare them down to manageable levels. In the meantime there was a big push to see more high school educated people. Suddenly, filtering by high school yielded too many results. Degrees were still relatively rare, so applying that logic allowed the filter to work again. But then the big push for college education started...
53% of recent college graduates are underemployed or jobless[1]. This seems to indicate that having a bachelors is not even enough anymore. "Everyone" has a bachelors degree these days, so why hire one of them when you can hire someone who has a masters degree?
The economy would do just fine if we had more high school (or less) educated people, but we would have to find some other filter, like gender, race, or religion and we have already decided that no company may filter based on those attributes. That leaves the infinite arms race of education where it is still socially acceptable to consider those without said education "stupid" and unfit to do the job.
[1] http://blog.fora.tv/2012/04/the-new-53-unemployed-college-grads/ http://blog.fora.tv/2012/04/the-new-53-unemployed-college-gr...
- fluidcruft 14y agoCollege-educated people being hired for jobs that high-school educated people used to do is only part of the problem. The other part of the problem is that those jobs are disappearing. That was the major point of the research article that this is report is based on. So, it's all fine and dandy for college-educated people to whine that they're only able to find jobs for which they are over-qualified, but high-school educated people face both increased competition from college-educated people and fewer opportunities (even if college-educated people were not encroaching) and can't find jobs at all.
- randomdata 14y agoKeep in mind that 70,000,000 high school graduates in the USA are employed, while only 35,000,000 college gradates are employed. High school educated people have a long way to go before they are completely marginalized by college graduates. You make it sound like there are just a handful of high school educated people hanging on to the last jobs by the skin of their teeth, which couldn't be further from the truth. I feel it is also important to note that the college educated gains made in this study were by people aged 25 or above. Those below that age are actually more employed with just a high school education for the first time. We can surmise from that data that experience is what has become important in the recession, which is also backed by my anecdotal experience. It is just that a degree actually did matter a decade ago, which left those without a degree lacking in the necessary experience today.