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Of all the speculation in this thread, I unfortunately suspect this is the likeliest outcome.

Tade0 1y ago
Hailing from a popular outsourcing destination I think the GP missed the mark somewhat. Outsourcing isn't just grunt work. It's almost all work, but cheaper and with less control over the outcome. There will be no "guiding people/LLMs". You have talented people all over the globe and to date what the best of the best were doing is move to the US. Those were the people guiding/managing outsourced teams, not Americans. You see this now with the "Indians hiring Indians" phenomenon. Trump put the brakes on that, so currently the only thing that's certain is uncertainty. My take is that there will be an attempt to replace at least the bottom end of outsourcing with LLMs, so more pressure on offshore labour to perform and, over time, fewer positions overall, as junior roles have already evaporated around here and eventually that will translate to fewer seniors.
- giantg2 1y ago
  "Outsourcing isn't just grunt work. It's almost all work, but cheaper and with less control over the outcome. There will be no "guiding people/LLMs"." It might not be only grunt work, but it is mostly grunt work. That lack of control has led to our org only outsourcing grunt work and low risk projects because of the higher failure rates we've seen. We are starting to use on-shore senior+ and TLs to oversee the work the off-shore resources are doing to help control the outcomes more.
  - Tade0 1y ago
    That's just you and your organization, which is why you're off the mark. Others outsource all kinds of work because talent is not exclusive to the US, but acquiring it might be too difficult. Also FAANG and the like perhaps didn't outsource, but definitely offshored much of their operations.
    - giantg2 1y ago
      I have friends in other companies saying they're doing basically the same thing. I guess unless one of use has a Gartner subscription, we won't know who is more right.

Hailing from a popular outsourcing destination I think the GP missed the mark somewhat. Outsourcing isn't just grunt work. It's almost all work, but cheaper and with less control over the outcome. There will be no "guiding people/LLMs". You have talented people all over the globe and to date what the best of the best were doing is move to the US. Those were the people guiding/managing outsourced teams, not Americans. You see this now with the "Indians hiring Indians" phenomenon. Trump put the brakes on that, so currently the only thing that's certain is uncertainty. My take is that there will be an attempt to replace at least the bottom end of outsourcing with LLMs, so more pressure on offshore labour to perform and, over time, fewer positions overall, as junior roles have already evaporated around here and eventually that will translate to fewer seniors.

giantg2 1y ago
"Outsourcing isn't just grunt work. It's almost all work, but cheaper and with less control over the outcome. There will be no "guiding people/LLMs"." It might not be only grunt work, but it is mostly grunt work. That lack of control has led to our org only outsourcing grunt work and low risk projects because of the higher failure rates we've seen. We are starting to use on-shore senior+ and TLs to oversee the work the off-shore resources are doing to help control the outcomes more.
- Tade0 1y ago
  That's just you and your organization, which is why you're off the mark. Others outsource all kinds of work because talent is not exclusive to the US, but acquiring it might be too difficult. Also FAANG and the like perhaps didn't outsource, but definitely offshored much of their operations.
  - giantg2 1y ago
    I have friends in other companies saying they're doing basically the same thing. I guess unless one of use has a Gartner subscription, we won't know who is more right.