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I think this post is trending because of a comment on the announcement about the new Pope, where someone pointed out the redundancy in the vatican.va domain.

rat87 1y ago
> There 86 domains names starting with "www" in the .va zone,[6] with many more email-only subdomains. https://www.vatican.va/siti_va/index_va_en.htm https://www.vatican.va/siti_va/index_va_en.htm
90s_dev 1y ago
Yep, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43949769 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43949769
AStonesThrow 1y ago
The vatican.va domain has long been an outlier for not operating a web server at that shortened address. They insist on using the “www.vatican.va” only, and my browser’s autocomplete history reflects this.
- pelagicAustral 1y ago
  This is such a beautiful thing, it gets you in the head as much as in the heart... alas, probably nobody else feels this way about it...
- pimlottc 1y ago
  They might as well then just use www.va!
  - AStonesThrow 1y ago
    Well I suppose they could. But as we've seen, there are plenty of 2nd level domains under .va, and in fact, many if not most of those, especially vatican.va, actually refer to the Holy See. It's very common and understandable for folks to conflate the Holy See with the Vatican, but they are distinct entities with two different functions and purposes. If we're discussing the administration/governance of the Church and the organs which make up the Roman Curia, then we're definitely looking at the Holy See. It's the Holy See, not the Vatican, which is a Permanent Observer to the U.N. But again, if we're looking at any sort of physical presence, it's the Vatican City State. The actual territory that's an enclave and microstate is the Vatican. It's where people live, work, and worship. "The Vatican" is the entity selected for the ".va" ccTLD simply because of the way the rest of the world works. But only a few of those 2nd level domains can properly be considered more "Vatican" than "Holy See".
    - joeframbach 1y ago
      They could define a Holy C-Name, for convenience.

rat87 1y ago

> There 86 domains names starting with "www" in the .va zone,[6] with many more email-only subdomains. https://www.vatican.va/siti_va/index_va_en.htm https://www.vatican.va/siti_va/index_va_en.htm

90s_dev 1y ago

Yep, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43949769 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43949769

AStonesThrow 1y ago

The vatican.va domain has long been an outlier for not operating a web server at that shortened address. They insist on using the “www.vatican.va” only, and my browser’s autocomplete history reflects this.

pelagicAustral 1y ago
This is such a beautiful thing, it gets you in the head as much as in the heart... alas, probably nobody else feels this way about it...
pimlottc 1y ago
They might as well then just use www.va!
- AStonesThrow 1y ago
  Well I suppose they could. But as we've seen, there are plenty of 2nd level domains under .va, and in fact, many if not most of those, especially vatican.va, actually refer to the Holy See. It's very common and understandable for folks to conflate the Holy See with the Vatican, but they are distinct entities with two different functions and purposes. If we're discussing the administration/governance of the Church and the organs which make up the Roman Curia, then we're definitely looking at the Holy See. It's the Holy See, not the Vatican, which is a Permanent Observer to the U.N. But again, if we're looking at any sort of physical presence, it's the Vatican City State. The actual territory that's an enclave and microstate is the Vatican. It's where people live, work, and worship. "The Vatican" is the entity selected for the ".va" ccTLD simply because of the way the rest of the world works. But only a few of those 2nd level domains can properly be considered more "Vatican" than "Holy See".
  - joeframbach 1y ago
    They could define a Holy C-Name, for convenience.