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You’re speaking about technicalities. There shouldn’t be any argument that our economy will continue to be fucked by tariffs and supply issues. 30 percent is ma

by ok_dad 1y ago

You’re speaking about technicalities. There shouldn’t be any argument that our economy will continue to be fucked by tariffs and supply issues. 30 percent is massive.

noworriesnate 1y ago
"Technicalities?" 70% does not round to 0%. That's not a "technicality," that is a blatant misrepresentation. If a boy was watching the sheep, saw a wolf, and cried "Dragon! Dragon!" and then the king and his army came to fight the dragon, and when he was criticized for lying, he said, "You're talking in technicalities, there was indeed a wolf," that is what this feels like to me. But then if he refused to ever call the wolf a wolf, and this happened over and over again, and he always called it a dragon--well, a lot of people would just ignore him. Like, why not just say "Yeah, it's not true. Not sure what this guy's agenda is, but easily-disproved exaggeration doesn't help make the case. There IS a problem though, and let's try to have that conversation while ignoring obvious alarmism." You would sound reasonable and mature, and possibly even convincing.
- ipaddr 1y ago
  Thr 35% was the port of LA not Seattle which was a single point in time report saying no container ships are in Seattle at the moment and usually are.
echoangle 1y ago
Do you not see how „the port isn’t empty“ and „there will be a massive impact on the economy“ aren’t mutually exclusive? The argument isn’t that the tariffs are a good idea, it’s just about the snopes rating.
dialup_sounds 1y ago
It's not a technicality, it's literally what the claim was: "Seattle's marine cargo terminals were empty and international vessels had stopped calling into the port as of April 29, 2025, due to the U.S.'s newly imposed tariffs." The fact that the terminals are not empty doesn't mean the economy isn't fucked, so there's no reason to argue about it either way.
- ok_dad 1y ago
  We’re sitting here arguing about the obviously incorrect title and America is burning, so we are speaking about the wrong thing. It’s irrelevant whether it’s 70 or 0 percent, we’re still fucked. Discussing the issue of 70 vs 0 percent isn’t going to solve how fucked we are, so it’s a technicality.
  - lurk2 1y ago
    > America is burning Please take it back to Reddit.
    - ok_dad 1y ago
      That’s not a useful comment or even an argument against my statement, gfy

by ok_dad 1y ago

You’re speaking about technicalities. There shouldn’t be any argument that our economy will continue to be fucked by tariffs and supply issues. 30 percent is massive.

noworriesnate 1y ago

"Technicalities?" 70% does not round to 0%. That's not a "technicality," that is a blatant misrepresentation. If a boy was watching the sheep, saw a wolf, and cried "Dragon! Dragon!" and then the king and his army came to fight the dragon, and when he was criticized for lying, he said, "You're talking in technicalities, there was indeed a wolf," that is what this feels like to me. But then if he refused to ever call the wolf a wolf, and this happened over and over again, and he always called it a dragon--well, a lot of people would just ignore him. Like, why not just say "Yeah, it's not true. Not sure what this guy's agenda is, but easily-disproved exaggeration doesn't help make the case. There IS a problem though, and let's try to have that conversation while ignoring obvious alarmism." You would sound reasonable and mature, and possibly even convincing.

ipaddr 1y ago
Thr 35% was the port of LA not Seattle which was a single point in time report saying no container ships are in Seattle at the moment and usually are.

echoangle 1y ago

Do you not see how „the port isn’t empty“ and „there will be a massive impact on the economy“ aren’t mutually exclusive? The argument isn’t that the tariffs are a good idea, it’s just about the snopes rating.

dialup_sounds 1y ago

It's not a technicality, it's literally what the claim was: "Seattle's marine cargo terminals were empty and international vessels had stopped calling into the port as of April 29, 2025, due to the U.S.'s newly imposed tariffs." The fact that the terminals are not empty doesn't mean the economy isn't fucked, so there's no reason to argue about it either way.

ok_dad 1y ago
We’re sitting here arguing about the obviously incorrect title and America is burning, so we are speaking about the wrong thing. It’s irrelevant whether it’s 70 or 0 percent, we’re still fucked. Discussing the issue of 70 vs 0 percent isn’t going to solve how fucked we are, so it’s a technicality.
- lurk2 1y ago
  > America is burning Please take it back to Reddit.
  - ok_dad 1y ago
    That’s not a useful comment or even an argument against my statement, gfy