3 ms·

Think you want to look at Vancouver traffic as well. I believe some companies are shipping it there and waiting it out. This admin will fold faster than a cheap

by lvl155 1y ago

Think you want to look at Vancouver traffic as well. I believe some companies are shipping it there and waiting it out. This admin will fold faster than a cheap $2…

AlotOfReading 1y ago
I wonder how long that can last. Quite a bit of Vancouver traffic diverts to Seattle and Tacoma to avoid capacity issues, and there's finite warehouse capacity to hold containers that haven't gone through customs.
- sfifs 1y ago
  Wouldn't such capacity be relatively easy to build quickly if needed. Paved lots with a cranes?
  - AlotOfReading 1y ago
    Take a look at where Vancouver's port facilities are. They're shoved up against steep mountains, a major city, and a major suburb. That makes it some of the most expensive land in the world. You'll also need to register that land with the government to operate as a bonded warehouse and invest at least a little in security to meet the requirements. For its part, the Canadian government isn't terribly incentivized to help you acquire that land so you can explicitly avoid paying any import duties.
    - Yeul 1y ago
      The Netherlands fixed the lack of land for container and oil terminals by creating artificial land in the 1960s. If you look on Google maps you can see that the "port of Rotterdam" is actually located off the coast. Singapore and other cities followed this example.
      - AlotOfReading 1y ago
        Vancouver is in a fjord. Building artificial land is expensive because the water is deep and the currents are strong. They're aware of how to do it, because Seattle's port is mostly built on top of one of the world's largest artificial islands (harbor island). The depth of the fjord is actually a strength to Vancouver, because it means they're not limited on ship draft. Seattle is.
        sfifs 1y ago
        Looking at Google satellite imagery, there's quite a bit of farmland and even a golf course in Vancouver. I'd guess challenges would be mostly cost of land and local zoning politics related,
hmm37 1y ago
Isn't Trump also placing extra charges on Chinese made ships docking at US ports? If they ship to Vancouver, and trains ship the shipping containers to the US, can you avoid this extra fee which is quite expensive at a $1M or so per Chinese made container ship?

by lvl155 1y ago

Think you want to look at Vancouver traffic as well. I believe some companies are shipping it there and waiting it out. This admin will fold faster than a cheap $2…

AlotOfReading 1y ago

I wonder how long that can last. Quite a bit of Vancouver traffic diverts to Seattle and Tacoma to avoid capacity issues, and there's finite warehouse capacity to hold containers that haven't gone through customs.

sfifs 1y ago
Wouldn't such capacity be relatively easy to build quickly if needed. Paved lots with a cranes?
- AlotOfReading 1y ago
  Take a look at where Vancouver's port facilities are. They're shoved up against steep mountains, a major city, and a major suburb. That makes it some of the most expensive land in the world. You'll also need to register that land with the government to operate as a bonded warehouse and invest at least a little in security to meet the requirements. For its part, the Canadian government isn't terribly incentivized to help you acquire that land so you can explicitly avoid paying any import duties.
  - Yeul 1y ago
    The Netherlands fixed the lack of land for container and oil terminals by creating artificial land in the 1960s. If you look on Google maps you can see that the "port of Rotterdam" is actually located off the coast. Singapore and other cities followed this example.
    - AlotOfReading 1y ago
      Vancouver is in a fjord. Building artificial land is expensive because the water is deep and the currents are strong. They're aware of how to do it, because Seattle's port is mostly built on top of one of the world's largest artificial islands (harbor island). The depth of the fjord is actually a strength to Vancouver, because it means they're not limited on ship draft. Seattle is.
      - sfifs 1y ago
        Looking at Google satellite imagery, there's quite a bit of farmland and even a golf course in Vancouver. I'd guess challenges would be mostly cost of land and local zoning politics related,

hmm37 1y ago

Isn't Trump also placing extra charges on Chinese made ships docking at US ports? If they ship to Vancouver, and trains ship the shipping containers to the US, can you avoid this extra fee which is quite expensive at a $1M or so per Chinese made container ship?