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Have you used Kagi or Google recently? Kagi works way better.
by sfpotter 1y ago
Have you used Kagi or Google recently? Kagi works way better.
- sdwr 1y agoThen why do they want Google's search index?
- sfpotter 1y agoSo they can work even better...?
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- hmottestad 1y agoCrawling the web is costly. I assume it's cheaper to use the results from someone else's crawling. I don't know what Kagi is using to argue that they should have access to Google's indexes, but I'd guess it's some form of anti trust.
- guhcampos 1y agoLet me add more: crawling the web is costly for EVERYONE. The more crawlers out there, the more useless traffic is being served by every single website on the internet. In an ideal world, there would be a single authoritative index, just as we have with web domains, and all players would cooperate into building, maintaining and improving it, so websites would not need to be constantly hammered by thousands of crawlers everyday.
- cactusplant7374 1y agoBandwidth is cheap. I also like seeing more traffic in the logs.
- const_cast 1y agoYeah not that cheap. There's a few articles on HN now about small, independent websites being essentially DDOS'd by crawlers. Although, to be fair, mostly AI crawlers.
- trollbridge 1y agoI already get hit by literally hundreds of crawlers, presumably trying to find grist for there AI mills. One more crawler for a search index wouldn’t hurt.
- eastbound 1y agoOn every Kagi comment, there is “Have you used Kagi recently? It’s improved a lot!” — to the level that I suspect they have bots to upgrade the brand image, at least to search which comments to respond do. I’m saying that because yes, I’ve used Kagi recently, and I switch back to Google every single time because Kagi can’t find anything. Kagi is to Google what Siri is to ChatGPT. Siri can’t even answer “What time is it?”
- tshaddox 1y ago> to the level that I suspect they have bots to upgrade the brand image What “level” is that which couldn’t possibly be accomplished by humans? Are you seeing thousands of messages every day?
- malfist 1y agoMaybe you see different comments than I do, but I don't see many comments saying it's improved a lot lately. As a Kagi user, I would not say it's improved a lot lately. It's a consistent, specific product for what I need. I like the privacy aspects of it, and the control to block, raise or lower sites in my search results. If that's not something you care about then don't use it. Is it better than Google at finding things? I don't think so, but then, Google is trash these days too
- buzzerbetrayed 1y agoI don’t understand. The GP of your comment is literally saying that Kagi is better than Google as of late. You’re not helping the “Kagi doesn’t use bots” case by ignore the context 2 comments up. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43948385 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43948385
- malfist 1y agoThey said Kagi works "way better" than google, not that Kagi is better as of late (although they do ask if they've tried kagi lately). Which is consistent with my statement that Kagi is a consistent product and not really improving. They keep adding AI features, but I disable those and don't care about them. You're welcome to check my post history, I'm certainly not a bot. Or if I am, I'm a very convincing one that runs an astrophotography blog.