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I always liked the theory that we're living in an age where all of our needs can be reasonably met, and we now have enough time to think - in general. We're not

I always liked the theory that we're living in an age where all of our needs can be reasonably met, and we now have enough time to think - in general. We're not working 12 hour days on a field, we're not stalking prey for 5 miles, we have adequate time in our day-to-day to think about things - and ponder - and reflect; and the ability to do so leads to thoughts and epiphanies in people that therapy helps with. We also have more information at our disposal than ever, and can see new perspectives and ideas to combat and cope with - that one previously didn't need to consider or encounter. We've also stigmatized a lot of the things that folks previously used to cope (tobacco, alcohol), and have loosened our stigma on mental health and the management thereof.

mrweasel 1y ago
> we have adequate time in our day-to-day to think about things - and ponder - and reflect; I'd disagree. If you worked in the fields, you have plenty of time to think. We fill out every waking hour of our day, leaving no time to ponder or reflect. Many can't even find time to workout and if they do they listen to a podcast during their workout. That's why so many ideas come to us in the shower, it's the only place left where we don't fill out minds with impressions.
- 52-6F-62 1y ago
  Indeed. I had way more time to think working a factory kine than I have had in any other white collar role.
  - genewitch 1y ago
    at the factory they told me not to think. I thought, and i snapped a bunch of tap die. So maybe there was something to it?
- squigz 1y ago
  I think GP means more that we generally don't have to worry about survival on a day to day (or seasonal) basis anymore, so we have more time to think about bigger issues, like politics or social issues - which I agree with, personally.
  - const_cast 1y ago
    Politics and social issues, sure, but introspection? Personally, I don't see that. I think people will do almost anything to keep themselves from introspecting. It's just so much easier to externalize everything and constantly be looking to your environment and how it influences your life, as opposed to looking within. It's very uncomfortable to try to figure out why you are the way that you are and what you can do about it.
    - zdragnar 1y ago
      Take away social media, and most people have plenty of time for it. Most people fill their hours avoiding their problems rather than confronting them. That's half the reason therapy exists.
90s_dev 1y ago
> We're not working 12 hour days on a field, we're not stalking prey for 5 miles, we have adequate time in our day-to-day to think about things There's so much history that shows that people have always been able to think like this, and so much written proof that they have, and to the same proportion as they do today. Besides, in 12 hour days on a field, do you not have another 4 hours to relax and think? While stalking prey for 5 miles, is it not quiet enough for you to reflect on what you're doing and why? I do think you're onto something though when you say it's related to our material needs all being relatively met. It seems that's correlational and maybe causal.
johnisgood 1y ago
> We're not working 12 hour days on a field Actually, around here, you are lucky to find a job that is NOT 12 hours a shift.

mrweasel 1y ago

> we have adequate time in our day-to-day to think about things - and ponder - and reflect; I'd disagree. If you worked in the fields, you have plenty of time to think. We fill out every waking hour of our day, leaving no time to ponder or reflect. Many can't even find time to workout and if they do they listen to a podcast during their workout. That's why so many ideas come to us in the shower, it's the only place left where we don't fill out minds with impressions.

52-6F-62 1y ago
Indeed. I had way more time to think working a factory kine than I have had in any other white collar role.
- genewitch 1y ago
  at the factory they told me not to think. I thought, and i snapped a bunch of tap die. So maybe there was something to it?
squigz 1y ago
I think GP means more that we generally don't have to worry about survival on a day to day (or seasonal) basis anymore, so we have more time to think about bigger issues, like politics or social issues - which I agree with, personally.
- const_cast 1y ago
  Politics and social issues, sure, but introspection? Personally, I don't see that. I think people will do almost anything to keep themselves from introspecting. It's just so much easier to externalize everything and constantly be looking to your environment and how it influences your life, as opposed to looking within. It's very uncomfortable to try to figure out why you are the way that you are and what you can do about it.
  - zdragnar 1y ago
    Take away social media, and most people have plenty of time for it. Most people fill their hours avoiding their problems rather than confronting them. That's half the reason therapy exists.

90s_dev 1y ago

> We're not working 12 hour days on a field, we're not stalking prey for 5 miles, we have adequate time in our day-to-day to think about things There's so much history that shows that people have always been able to think like this, and so much written proof that they have, and to the same proportion as they do today. Besides, in 12 hour days on a field, do you not have another 4 hours to relax and think? While stalking prey for 5 miles, is it not quiet enough for you to reflect on what you're doing and why? I do think you're onto something though when you say it's related to our material needs all being relatively met. It seems that's correlational and maybe causal.

johnisgood 1y ago

> We're not working 12 hour days on a field Actually, around here, you are lucky to find a job that is NOT 12 hours a shift.