> The hard pill to swallow is that you can be an "hard core environmentalist", "born in a socially aware an progressive family" and still statistically be in th

> The hard pill to swallow is that you can be an "hard core environmentalist", "born in a socially aware an progressive family" and still statistically be in the top 10% contributor of co2/pollution, this isn't mutually exclusive at all. Count me in that exact demographic. Pill swallowed - long ago. Still: humanity's dealings are unsustainable, period. The way I see it, there's a few ways out: # Large scale conflict (nukes deployed?), human civilization thrown back to a dark age. Grim, but more sustainable than today! # Technology: 'synthetic' foods, regenerative agriculture, fusion power, etc. It helps, but don't hold your breath. # Get our numbers down. Yeah this is not a popular subject. But the sheer no. of humans is a big part of the problem. # Out of control consumerism, fast fashion etc must be curbed. Starting with the 1..10% wealthiest people looks like low-hanging fruit to me. 'Wild' example: an immediate, worldwide ban on mega-yachts would hurt no-one. # Fossil fuels must go. Attacking all these angles simultaneouly (& co-operating / co-ordinating where possible) is the only way to avert a worldwide chaos/conflict scenario.