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It caught my attention big time. All up until the point the word "caracul" was linked to the Zapatista movement, literally -- as in, to the Wikipedia page on Za
by hackrmn 1y ago
It caught my attention big time. All up until the point the word "caracul" was linked to the Zapatista movement, literally -- as in, to the Wikipedia page on Zapatista -- which, in turn says:
> is a far-left political and militant group that controls a substantial amount of territory in Chiapas, the southernmost state of Mexico.[4][5][6][7]
I don't mean to preach political theory now, but as far as I can see we're already collectively pretty divided (divide and conquer comes to mind): for a project that seems to preach all manner of fairness and correction of a system gone wrong, and is arguably moderately anti-capitalist (in the sense of objecting some of the status-quo product of Silicon Valley's mode of operation), do we really need to be thrown all the way to the other end of the left-right scale? Is Bonfire arguing for the analogue of "militant revolution" of software?
Imagining the project now, I am envisioning green-clad militants writing "fair" software. While not without merit, in my opinion the explicit political associations detract from the intrinsic value something like Bonfire could have for us, who are indeed have never been more firmly under the boot of the commercial IT industry than now.
- forinti 1y agoThe way I read these capitalist/anti-capitalist debates is that those for capitalism usually have an idealized version of it in their heads and those against it have some very specific issue in mind. In Latin America, there are many communities that have suffered because of specific capitalist ventures: a banana plantation, a copper mine, etc. You have to acknowledge these things and offer a better version of capitalism if you want diminish this divide.
- eadmund 1y agoMeanwhile, those who are for socialism usually have an idealised version of it in their heads and those against it have some very specific issue in mind. People are funny.
- itsanaccount 1y agoYou seem to be recoiling from the idea of average people being armed and militant. Like its surprising or outside of normal. Im going to assume you're a reasonable person and have been watching some news. You probably think like I do that its good for society to follow some laws and have some checks on different groups power. Hows that working out right now? You know without meaningful militancy on one side of the political spectrum. Its been my experience when people ask for "politics" to be taken out of a thing they implicitly ask for the politics of the status quo. Which is domination by the commercial software industry and anything else the rich own, because they write the laws.