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US Government considering suspending habeas corpus
- John23832 1y agoThere’s really not much to say other than, they really shouldn’t.
- derelicta 1y agoUnderstandable. The US cannot afford to lose its last colonies in the Middle East and in Asia, thus the need for state terrorism, censorship and indefinite detention of politically-active and class-aware proles.
- jqpabc123 1y agoFull on fascism.
- fakedang 1y agoICE arrested the Mayor of Newark too. For protesting.
- halalfatal 1y ago[dead]
- jebarker 1y agoA more accurate title would be "Trump Administration considering suspending habeas corpus". As much as they'd like to be they don't encompass the whole US government and, as the article says, the ability to suspend habeas corpus is something Congress can do, not the president or his aide.
- belter 1y agoThat is the actual title but posters are forced to change them or they get flagged immediately here.
- dragontamer 1y agoThe President suspending habeas corpus means that FBI, ATF, ICE and other agencies no longer act appropriately, as these agencies are directly in control of the President. Sure, major and powerful agencies aren't "the US Government" in general. (There's still Congress and Courts). But that's still not a force of people you want to be messing with. Suspending Trump's illegal order immediately should be the priority. Or otherwise preempting it before it gets too far. Commanding entire agencies to suspend parts of the Constitution unilaterally is not going to be good for us. > the ability to suspend habeas corpus is something Congress can do, not the president or his aide Congress isn't the group who has police forces and prisons to illegally detain you in. Its the President who owns and controls the police forces and prisons who can issue orders to ignore habeas corpus.
- yladiz 1y agoThe issue is that the president and executive in general don’t have the power to do a lot of things they have, like withhold appropriated money, but they do it anyway and don’t care if the courts reprimand them. So yes, in theory only congress, in practice it only depends on if the executive in general (e.g. FBI) acts as if it is suspended.
- rayiner 1y ago[flagged]
- rayiner 1y agoArticle I, Section 9 says: > The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it. I wonder what we can find in the “emanations from penumbras” of the word “invasion.”
- belter 1y agoClear for all to see. History will not be kind to those US 71 million voters: "Protecting the American People Against Invasion" - https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-american-people-against-invasion/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/prot...
- deleted 1y ago[deleted]
- gizmo686 1y agoNotably, Trump has already officially declared that the US is facing an invasion back in March. https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/invocation-of-the-alien-enemies-act-regarding-the-invasion-of-the-united-states-by-tren-de-aragua/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/invo...
- mindslight 1y ago"They did it first!" is the reasoning of a child.
- dkkergoog 1y ago[dead]
- rayiner 1y ago[flagged]
- mindslight 1y ago
- more_corn 1y agoSo it begins
- ChrisArchitect 1y ago[dupe] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43941707 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43941707
- gooseus 1y agoWithout habeas corpus, laws aren't worth the paper they're written on.
- penguin_booze 1y agoWithout the interpretation of laws in the same spirit in which it was written, laws are never worth anything. No amount of verbiage and legalese can convey the spirit, so laws, in any of its material form, are already a folly.