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> to be attractive For people who value money over everything else

by yread 1y ago

geremiiah 1y ago
My post was arguing that the "everything else" is more attractive in the US. Consider a post doc or junior professor who do not know if they will ever get a tenure position or if you even want to remain in academia their whole life. Their plan B is to get an job in industry. Now consider having access to the whole US job market vs. having access to one tiny EU country. Not to mention that when you bias for cutting edge industry R&D there are industries which only have a significant presence in the US.
- JimTheMan 1y ago
  They have access to the whole European union? People value not having to step over the homeless to get to work, lower crime, free healthcare, no risk of deportation for having a view on Palestine etc etc The US isn't that pleasant of a place to live.
  - diogocp 1y ago
    > They have access to the whole European union? Only if they are EU citizens. > People value not having to step over the homeless to get to work Better stay away from Paris, then.
    - Swoerd 1y ago
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    - BrandoElFollito 1y ago
      And many other cities. Paris is bad in some places, and great in others. Like every other major country.
  - throw-the-towel 1y ago
    "No risk of deportation for having a view on Palestine"? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/germany-deporting-pro-palestine-eu-citizens-chilling-new-step https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/german...
  - Axsuul 1y ago
    All those things you mention are certainly bad in some parts of US but not most.
- overfeed 1y ago
  > Consider a post doc or junior professor who do not know if they will ever get a tenure position or if you even want to remain in academia their whole life Now assume they are not American citizens, and travel internationally and re-evaluate the whole proposition that "everything else" is better.
  - overfeed 1y ago
    Y'all downvoting like there isn't a Harvard researcher whose visa was revoked and is in ICE custody this very moment.

> to be attractive For people who value money over everything else

by yread 1y ago

> to be attractive For people who value money over everything else

My post was arguing that the "everything else" is more attractive in the US. Consider a post doc or junior professor who do not know if they will ever get a tenure position or if you even want to remain in academia their whole life. Their plan B is to get an job in industry. Now consider having access to the whole US job market vs. having access to one tiny EU country. Not to mention that when you bias for cutting edge industry R&D there are industries which only have a significant presence in the US.

JimTheMan 1y ago
They have access to the whole European union? People value not having to step over the homeless to get to work, lower crime, free healthcare, no risk of deportation for having a view on Palestine etc etc The US isn't that pleasant of a place to live.
- diogocp 1y ago
  > They have access to the whole European union? Only if they are EU citizens. > People value not having to step over the homeless to get to work Better stay away from Paris, then.
  - Swoerd 1y ago
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  - BrandoElFollito 1y ago
    And many other cities. Paris is bad in some places, and great in others. Like every other major country.
- throw-the-towel 1y ago
  "No risk of deportation for having a view on Palestine"? https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/germany-deporting-pro-palestine-eu-citizens-chilling-new-step https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/03/german...
- Axsuul 1y ago
  All those things you mention are certainly bad in some parts of US but not most.
overfeed 1y ago
> Consider a post doc or junior professor who do not know if they will ever get a tenure position or if you even want to remain in academia their whole life Now assume they are not American citizens, and travel internationally and re-evaluate the whole proposition that "everything else" is better.
- overfeed 1y ago
  Y'all downvoting like there isn't a Harvard researcher whose visa was revoked and is in ICE custody this very moment.