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I think that the US strongly outperforms the EU by that metric too, https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsb20246/cross-national-comparisons-of-r-d-performance https://n
by perihelions 1y ago
I think that the US strongly outperforms the EU by that metric too,
https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsb20246/cross-national-comparisons-of-r-d-performance https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsb20246/cross-national-compariso... ("Cross-National Comparisons of R&D Performance" (2024))
In the NSF's specific definition, the US greatly outspends the EU even normalizing by GDP—3.46% of GDP in the USA, against 2.16% in the EU-27.
(Notably, China also recently surpassed the EU, at 2.43%).
- mpweiher 1y agoHmm...Wikipidea says "$135.110B in R&D spending" for federal funds. Now that was 2015, but the number is very similar the EU figure of €136 billion. There will be be differences, but the point stands that comparing the tiny delta provided by this specific program to total spending is not serious.
- perihelions 1y agoRight; that's the federal government spending, while the other's combined R&D from all sources (aligning with 'mpweiher 's comment and their metric). The nsf.gov page has a breakdown table, too, of government vs. industry spending.
- mpweiher 1y agoThat turns out not to be the case. The €136 billion was EU + national governments.
- Eddy_Viscosity2 1y agoThe US is undoubtedly ahead at the moment, but the point is that this moment is developing into a turning point where the US is reducing science funding while simultaneously being openly hostile to both scientists and very concept of science itself. If US scientists feel this not just a transitory bump but a genuine change in the political climate going forward, then Europe is going to look inviting, especially if they start offering incentives.
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