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What happens when all the immigrants are finally deported but the MAGA base are worse off than before? Why are the various polls only showing mid-50% disapprov

What happens when all the immigrants are finally deported but the MAGA base are worse off than before? Why are the various polls only showing mid-50% disapproval of Trump rather than 90+%? I'm as cynical as the next guy, and I know the ol' bell curve truth of 50% of the population are of below average intelligence, but I think I've miscalculated the level of intelligence needed to identify basic consequences and cause and effect. What I find funny is that it's not the immigrants getting the 'free ride' on the backs of the MAGA base. The MAGA base has been getting a free ride off the backs of the scientists and intellectual leaders that the US was able to attract since WWII, and what they've been able to build as a result of that. Trump is alienating the shoulders upon which the rest of the US stood (scientists, researchers, and thought leaders) as well as, the immigrant community that are in the US to learn to be the scientists, researchers and thought leaders of the future or to do some of the jobs that non-immigrants don't want to do. There is no end game that doesn't leave the US as the memory of the shadow of its former self.

cosmicgadget 1y ago
If they believed that deportations by any means necessary were detrimental or unethical, they would not have voted for him. Expect his approval to remain steady until his supporters are personally impacted.
- IAmGraydon 1y ago
  >If they believed that deportations by any means necessary were detrimental or unethical, they would not have voted for him. Is this sarcasm? If recent events have shown us anything, it’s that his base is willing to throw ethics and indeed the entire constitution into a fire if it gets them what they want.
  - cosmicgadget 1y ago
    Exactly my point. They voted for this.
k310 1y ago
Marisa Kabas‬ [0] ‪@marisakabas.bsky.social‬ · 11h I’m told they were stopping people at this intersection and asking them for their papers. ‪Migrant Solidarity Mutual Aid‬ ‪@dcmigrantmutualaid.org‬ · 12h ICE activity reports for 5/9: Activity reported at - Fort Totten Dr & Gallatin St NE at 8:00AM - 5 officers - 3 ATF, others federal police - 4 unmarked black cars with VA tags - At least one person detained Search and seizure? [0] https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3loqls3i6tk2s https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3loqls...
- IAmGraydon 1y ago
  Serious question - in every picture that account has posted, the people she claims are ICE are wearing jackets/vests that say “Police” but not “ICE”. In the post you linked, she even says they’re ATF and Federal Police, but claims it’s ICE activity. ATF, btw, doesn’t have anything to do with deportations. How does this person come to the conclusion that these officers are connected with ICE and not just officers doing officer things? This could be similar to the NJ drones - a case of mass paranoia/delusion where everything they see is interpreted as a threat.
lwo32k 1y ago
> scientists and intellectual leaders Aren't they obviously over rated and over valued if they allow a Trump to become the leader of society in the first place?
- krapp 1y ago
  No, they're underrated and undervalued. No one listens to them, no one trusts them and they have less cultural influence than memes and social media influencers. The brainrot has gotten so bad that HN, a forum of what are supposed to be intelligent, educated, technically adept people qualitatively "better than Reddit", will tend towards the anti-science/pro conspiracy interpretation of events more often than not.

cosmicgadget 1y ago

If they believed that deportations by any means necessary were detrimental or unethical, they would not have voted for him. Expect his approval to remain steady until his supporters are personally impacted.

IAmGraydon 1y ago
>If they believed that deportations by any means necessary were detrimental or unethical, they would not have voted for him. Is this sarcasm? If recent events have shown us anything, it’s that his base is willing to throw ethics and indeed the entire constitution into a fire if it gets them what they want.
- cosmicgadget 1y ago
  Exactly my point. They voted for this.

k310 1y ago

Marisa Kabas‬ [0] ‪@marisakabas.bsky.social‬ · 11h I’m told they were stopping people at this intersection and asking them for their papers. ‪Migrant Solidarity Mutual Aid‬ ‪@dcmigrantmutualaid.org‬ · 12h ICE activity reports for 5/9: Activity reported at - Fort Totten Dr & Gallatin St NE at 8:00AM - 5 officers - 3 ATF, others federal police - 4 unmarked black cars with VA tags - At least one person detained Search and seizure? [0] https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3loqls3i6tk2s https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3loqls...

IAmGraydon 1y ago
Serious question - in every picture that account has posted, the people she claims are ICE are wearing jackets/vests that say “Police” but not “ICE”. In the post you linked, she even says they’re ATF and Federal Police, but claims it’s ICE activity. ATF, btw, doesn’t have anything to do with deportations. How does this person come to the conclusion that these officers are connected with ICE and not just officers doing officer things? This could be similar to the NJ drones - a case of mass paranoia/delusion where everything they see is interpreted as a threat.

lwo32k 1y ago

> scientists and intellectual leaders Aren't they obviously over rated and over valued if they allow a Trump to become the leader of society in the first place?

krapp 1y ago
No, they're underrated and undervalued. No one listens to them, no one trusts them and they have less cultural influence than memes and social media influencers. The brainrot has gotten so bad that HN, a forum of what are supposed to be intelligent, educated, technically adept people qualitatively "better than Reddit", will tend towards the anti-science/pro conspiracy interpretation of events more often than not.