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Twitter Gives Developers 6 Months To “Properly” Display Tweet
- state 14y agoIt certainly is time for an alternative, isn't it.
- calvin 14y agoHence Dalton Caldwell's "Audacious Proposal" and the birth of App.net. https://join.app.net/ https://join.app.net/
- state 14y agoI know, I joined.
- streptomycin 14y agoSo we have a walled garden network fucking over its users, and you think the solution is to replace it with another walled garden because its rulers are supposedly more benevolent? That's not very ambitious. Think bigger. StatusNet/Identica is free, open source, and (most importantly) federated.
- 54mf 14y agoA walled garden lets anyone in, but not out. You're thinking of something more along the lines of a gated community.
- streptomycin 14y agoNo, I'm thinking of a walled garden. https://www.google.com/search?q=walled+garden+twitter https://www.google.com/search?q=walled+garden+twitter
- 54mf 14y agoAh, appears we're both correct: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walled_garden_(technology) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walled_garden_(technology) "... refers to a carrier or service provider's control over applications, content, and media on platforms..." "More generally ... refers to a closed or exclusive set of information services provided for users"
- encoderer 14y agoNo, i actually think just he's correct. It's OK to be wrong though, so no big deal. Though I do disagree with his sentiment. I think App.Net is a perfectly good alternative to Twitter and every attempt at open, federated services since the original one (eg www) have failed to catch-on.
- protomyth 14y agowww was not the original federated service. E-mail is still around and quite successful.
- unimpressive 14y agoUsenet is dead now, but worked for quite some time.
- protomyth 14y agoI have wondered if an updated version of nntp would have worked.
- _lex 14y agoIt looks like Twitter won't be happy until the only Twitter developers are the ones that work at Twitter.
- andrewhillman 14y agoTwitter seems to be taking themselves too seriously. Guidelines for displaying a tweet? Come on.
- poblano 14y agoHow are they expecting to enforce that? Are they really going to download and test every third-party app?
- aaronbrethorst 14y agoRequire screenshot submissions, hire a bunch of temps, and they're all set.
- aaronblohowiak 14y ago... or use their recently open-sourced mechanical turk library.
- natrius 14y agoReviewing the most popular X apps is easy. Apps that no one uses don't matter.
- hboon 14y agoIt's a great way to restrict clients that integrate with other services, especially competitors like Facebook.
- notatoad 14y agoThis essentially boils down to "any content sourced from the api must be displayed unmodified, in its entirety, and be properly attributed." It's a pretty standard thing across the entire internet. really, the only strange thing is the insistence that the author's username must be on a separate line from the tweet.
- doublec 14y agoHow will they handle console twitter apps (ttyter and bitlbee for example) where formatting can't happen to match their requirements?
- jonursenbach 14y agoI highly doubt Twitter cares about them at all, and they'll most likely have their keys revoked.
- viper1092 14y agoRat bastards. I'm sure you're right.
- prodigal_erik 14y agoThe authors of these requirements don't seem to know or care that the World-Wide Web was never intended to mandate one visual-only rendering of your content, and in fact doesn't even do that very effectively. Most of them are pretty reasonable semantics (e.g., @user links to their profile) but as soon as you mention "lines" or "icons" or "top right" you're Doing It Wrong, and no affordances using other services is just blatantly anti-competitive.
- chmars 14y ago… not to mention the issue of accessibility. Is Twitter going to block access for visually impaired users by enforcing the new rules? Tweetie (now Twitter app) at least is a horrible app from an accessibility point of view and could only improve …
- ceol 14y agoTo play a bit of Devil's advocate... Most of the popular apps fall under the free API access, don't they? If so, isn't it unfair for everyone to say how users need to jump ship and find an alternative? I mean, Twitter is giving you API access for one of the most utilized services on the Internet... for free. You just have to make sure your app follows some guidelines. Unless I've misinterpreted this?
- _lex 14y agoPeople aren't building apps for fun. They're trying to build a business. No one in their right mind is going to invest in a business that's built in an area that can be bulldozed at any moment, and that's what twitter's platform is. For developers, twitter is now officially a burning platform.
- ceol 14y agoThat's true of any API, though. You don't build your entire business around another company's API without a contract. And yes, people are building apps for fun. Programming isn't just a job.
- nchlswu 14y agoCan you imagine if any other content provider or medium had this restriction? Or even worse, imagine how Twitter's growth would not have occured if the developers were intially subject to these restrictions...
- DrJokepu 14y agoCraig's List comes to mind. They're doing fine.
- FixThisPOSSite 14y agoPiss off, Twitter. The "proper" way to display your shit is not at all.