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What’s in it for people like the current Trade and Treasury Secretaries, heck even the V.P? In their previous lives, they seemed levelheaded - yet here we are.

What’s in it for people like the current Trade and Treasury Secretaries, heck even the V.P? In their previous lives, they seemed levelheaded - yet here we are. Is it just pure selfishness, “if I don’t do it, someone else will” mentality?

generic92034 1y ago
There never was any shortage of opportunists.
sixothree 1y ago
The VP seems level-headed? He's a moldable piece of wet clay. How can you even begin to suggest stability would come from this person?
- sheepscreek 1y ago
  “seemed” - past-tense. Before he became VP nominee. He had an arguably strong vocal stance against many things he stands for now. Truly perplexing. You’re both right in basically calling this “opportunistic” or supremely mouldable, perhaps even morally flex and incompetent behaviour. It’s a shame. Still I wonder if post current admin, there is a way these people could still redeem themselves. I want to think that at least some are using the new found focus to get shit done for good, perhaps at the expense of looking like puppets or yes men/women (publicly).
  - CamperBob2 1y ago
    I want to think that at least some are using the new found focus to get shit done for good, perhaps at the expense of looking like puppets or yes men/women (publicly). I imagine a lot of them rationalized their decisions that way, as you suggested earlier. "If I don't take this job with Trump, he'll give it to a corrupt crony or some random nutcase. But if I do take it, I can work for positive change from the inside. Hmm. I really don't have a choice, do I?"
    - sheepscreek 1y ago
      > If I don't take this job with Trump, he'll give it to a corrupt crony or some random nutcase. But if I do take it, I can work for positive change from the inside. Hmm. I really don't have a choice, do I? True though, isn’t it? Election has already been won. If you get ostracized from the party, won’t do any good to anyone. Hmm. Extending that logic, maybe there isn’t a clear right or wrong. Just decisions and consequences. Do what you can and hope for the best. Not a fun way to work (or live).

generic92034 1y ago

There never was any shortage of opportunists.

sixothree 1y ago

The VP seems level-headed? He's a moldable piece of wet clay. How can you even begin to suggest stability would come from this person?

sheepscreek 1y ago
“seemed” - past-tense. Before he became VP nominee. He had an arguably strong vocal stance against many things he stands for now. Truly perplexing. You’re both right in basically calling this “opportunistic” or supremely mouldable, perhaps even morally flex and incompetent behaviour. It’s a shame. Still I wonder if post current admin, there is a way these people could still redeem themselves. I want to think that at least some are using the new found focus to get shit done for good, perhaps at the expense of looking like puppets or yes men/women (publicly).
- CamperBob2 1y ago
  I want to think that at least some are using the new found focus to get shit done for good, perhaps at the expense of looking like puppets or yes men/women (publicly). I imagine a lot of them rationalized their decisions that way, as you suggested earlier. "If I don't take this job with Trump, he'll give it to a corrupt crony or some random nutcase. But if I do take it, I can work for positive change from the inside. Hmm. I really don't have a choice, do I?"
  - sheepscreek 1y ago
    > If I don't take this job with Trump, he'll give it to a corrupt crony or some random nutcase. But if I do take it, I can work for positive change from the inside. Hmm. I really don't have a choice, do I? True though, isn’t it? Election has already been won. If you get ostracized from the party, won’t do any good to anyone. Hmm. Extending that logic, maybe there isn’t a clear right or wrong. Just decisions and consequences. Do what you can and hope for the best. Not a fun way to work (or live).