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they're not the leader for FSD cars. he just claims to be, through a little-known trick called "lying"
by affinepplan 1y ago
they're not the leader for FSD cars. he just claims to be, through a little-known trick called "lying"
- mensetmanusman 1y agoThey are the leader in miles traveled.
- gamblor956 1y agoTesla is also the leader in terms of crashes, injuries, and fatalities. On a per-mile basis, they're the most dangerous advanced driving system in the world and it's not even close.
- kcb 1y agoAre there even any other systems deployed with equivalent functionality?
- gamblor956 1y agoBMW, GM, Ford, and Waymo. And they all do it better than Tesla. 0 fatalities. 0 injuries. 0 crashes where the self-driving was at fault (but a few where the car behind them crashed into them).
- kcb 1y ago> BMW, GM, Ford, Glorified cruise control does not equal self driving. I know everyone has to hate on Tesla, but FSD in its current form is a decade ahead of these. It doesn't take long looking at videos of actual people using these systems to understand the massive capability gap between Teslas FSD and everyone elses driver assistance system. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oWDVJ4FjfU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oWDVJ4FjfU
- Aloisius 1y agoPretty sure they were referring to Cruise (the robotaxi company) not GM's existing supercruise feature. Of course, with GM bringing Cruise in-house and abandoning the taxi service, there's no telling how much of their technology will be used.
- thebruce87m 1y ago> FSD in its current form is a decade ahead of these. FSD is still only level 2. Honda and Mercedes are the only two companies to sell level 3 capable cars, but these are only level 3 under certain limited conditions. You may be correct that the level 2 performance of FSD is ahead of the level 2 performance of any other car, but I don’t think we can call Tesla king until they also match the level 3 performance of these other cars under those conditions.
- kcb 1y agoMaybe but yes those level 3 systems need the stars to align to actually be active from what I understand. It's just as far as I know, there's no other system that allows someone to just enter an address, navigate through both city and highway, then arrive at a destination.
- gamblor956 1y agoGlorified cruise control does not equal self driving Elon Musk disagrees. He's been calling glorified cruise control self-driving for a decade. FSD in its current form is a decade ahead of these Yes, in terms of accidents and fatalities, FSR is way ahead of the entire rest of the industry. In terms of actual driving quality? Super Cruise and BMW have it beat. Yes, they're geographically limited. That's because GM and BMW are acting responsibly and making sure it works before they open it up everywhere. Move fast and break things doesn't work when the things being broken are people. I got a video of my own: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPUGh0qAqWA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPUGh0qAqWA Goes into detail about why FSD crashes so frequently and why the problem cannot be fixed as long as FSD remains reliant on cameras. Indeed, if you type in "FSD accident" or any variation of "accident" there are thousands of videos, many of them taken by the Tesla owner themself.
- thebruce87m 1y agoMiles travelled at what? Level 2? Level 3?
- kcb 1y agoYes they are...