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Is there any evidence towards this allegiance? Why should we attribute to malice what we could attribute to incompetence, or greed?

Onawa 1y ago
Yes, there is a LOT of evidence of this allegiance, although maybe just observing Trump's unwillingness to openly criticize Russia and Putin is highly suspect by itself. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associat...
- rcpt 1y ago
  And those "mishandled classified documents"? They were all about Russian interference in elections. We never got them back but I'm sure Vlad liked his birthday present https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12/politics/missing-russia-intelligence-trump-dg/ https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12/politics/missing-rus...
arunabha 1y ago
One piece of evidence would be that Russia, Belarus and North Korea have been specifically excluded from US tariffs. You could argue that the net effect is negligible since we don't import a lot from those countries, but the signal being sent to long term allies is devastating to America's future relations with them.
- oldprogrammer2 1y ago
  The US has trade sanctions with those countries.
  - faster 1y ago
    The US has trade sanctions on Iran too, and Iran is on the tariff list. I don't think that's it. Some transparency would be helpful.
    - oldprogrammer2 1y ago
      Iran is on the tariffs list because of Trump's maximum pressure policy (an official National Security Memorandum) against Iran. This is coupled with Trump's willingness to get Russia to cooperate in the ceasefire. I'm not claiming his administration's logic is 100% sound, only that there is an explanation that doesn't assume the rather farfetched theory that Trump is an agent for Russia. I'm not particularly well-versed in this area, but searching for the topic on Google easily found this information on sites such as Wikipedia, WSJ, Newsweek, and whitehouse.gov.
- tstrimple 1y ago
  Uninhabited islands made the tariff list, but those countries somehow managed to slip through.
apercu 1y ago
Your eyes and ears for the last 9 years?

Onawa 1y ago

Yes, there is a LOT of evidence of this allegiance, although maybe just observing Trump's unwillingness to openly criticize Russia and Putin is highly suspect by itself. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associates_and_Russian_officials https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Links_between_Trump_associat...

rcpt 1y ago
And those "mishandled classified documents"? They were all about Russian interference in elections. We never got them back but I'm sure Vlad liked his birthday present https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12/politics/missing-russia-intelligence-trump-dg/ https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12/politics/missing-rus...

arunabha 1y ago

One piece of evidence would be that Russia, Belarus and North Korea have been specifically excluded from US tariffs. You could argue that the net effect is negligible since we don't import a lot from those countries, but the signal being sent to long term allies is devastating to America's future relations with them.

oldprogrammer2 1y ago
The US has trade sanctions with those countries.
- faster 1y ago
  The US has trade sanctions on Iran too, and Iran is on the tariff list. I don't think that's it. Some transparency would be helpful.
  - oldprogrammer2 1y ago
    Iran is on the tariffs list because of Trump's maximum pressure policy (an official National Security Memorandum) against Iran. This is coupled with Trump's willingness to get Russia to cooperate in the ceasefire. I'm not claiming his administration's logic is 100% sound, only that there is an explanation that doesn't assume the rather farfetched theory that Trump is an agent for Russia. I'm not particularly well-versed in this area, but searching for the topic on Google easily found this information on sites such as Wikipedia, WSJ, Newsweek, and whitehouse.gov.
tstrimple 1y ago
Uninhabited islands made the tariff list, but those countries somehow managed to slip through.

apercu 1y ago

Your eyes and ears for the last 9 years?