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And there it is...literally nothing is sacred anymore.

harimau777 1y ago
Can you elaborate? It has LONG been the practice that confession is absolutely confidential without exception. The idea is that they believe that there should be absolutely no barriers to confession when the eternal fate of the confessor's soul is at stake. There's also the matter of the slippery slope. E.g. what happens when a government decides that raising LGBTQ kids or attending Pride constitute child sex abuse?
- tbrownaw 1y ago
  > It has LONG been the practice that confession is absolutely confidential without exception. The idea is that they believe that there should be absolutely no barriers to confession when the eternal fate of the confessor's soul is at stake. I thought there were similar protections for a couple non-religious professions, and for spouses.
  - harimau777 1y ago
    There are. However, my understanding is that at least some of them are not absolute. E.g. an attorney or therapist would be obligated to alert law enforcement if their client told them they were planning a violent crime. The Catholic Church absolutely forbids breaking confidentiality even in circumstances like that.
    - trollbridge 1y ago
      Yes, as that concerns future acts, not past ones. Catholicism doesn’t offer absolution for a sin you haven’t committed yet but plan to. Lawyers don’t advise clients on engaging in criminal activity; they could however answer questions like “I’d like to do X but need your advice if it’s a criminal act or not.”
- supplied_demand 1y ago
  Isn’t abandoning kids suffering actual abuse today because there may be fake abuse in the future just another form of slippery slope?
- FollowingTheDao 1y ago
  Wow, this is weird. Why are you are getting the wrong idea from my comment? I mean that the government is over riding the sacredness of Catholic confession, thus "nothing is sacred anymore". I am on the side of the Catholic Church on this just to be clear.
  - harimau777 1y ago
    Ah, my mistake.
    - FollowingTheDao 1y ago
      Thanks. I have to wonder why people are DVting my explanation. Odd.

Can you elaborate? It has LONG been the practice that confession is absolutely confidential without exception. The idea is that they believe that there should be absolutely no barriers to confession when the eternal fate of the confessor's soul is at stake. There's also the matter of the slippery slope. E.g. what happens when a government decides that raising LGBTQ kids or attending Pride constitute child sex abuse?

tbrownaw 1y ago
> It has LONG been the practice that confession is absolutely confidential without exception. The idea is that they believe that there should be absolutely no barriers to confession when the eternal fate of the confessor's soul is at stake. I thought there were similar protections for a couple non-religious professions, and for spouses.
- harimau777 1y ago
  There are. However, my understanding is that at least some of them are not absolute. E.g. an attorney or therapist would be obligated to alert law enforcement if their client told them they were planning a violent crime. The Catholic Church absolutely forbids breaking confidentiality even in circumstances like that.
  - trollbridge 1y ago
    Yes, as that concerns future acts, not past ones. Catholicism doesn’t offer absolution for a sin you haven’t committed yet but plan to. Lawyers don’t advise clients on engaging in criminal activity; they could however answer questions like “I’d like to do X but need your advice if it’s a criminal act or not.”
supplied_demand 1y ago
Isn’t abandoning kids suffering actual abuse today because there may be fake abuse in the future just another form of slippery slope?
FollowingTheDao 1y ago
Wow, this is weird. Why are you are getting the wrong idea from my comment? I mean that the government is over riding the sacredness of Catholic confession, thus "nothing is sacred anymore". I am on the side of the Catholic Church on this just to be clear.
- harimau777 1y ago
  Ah, my mistake.
  - FollowingTheDao 1y ago
    Thanks. I have to wonder why people are DVting my explanation. Odd.