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They always do - eventually

by redeux 1y ago

anonymars 1y ago
I think the point was to refute "they are doing nothing therefore they want this to happen" Related: https://www.newsweek.com/lisa-murkowski-donald-trump-retaliation-republican-2061115 https://www.newsweek.com/lisa-murkowski-donald-trump-retalia...
- lesuorac 1y ago
  I mean if so many of them are scared they can just caucus with the nearly (but not actually) 50% of congress members that are democrats [1]. It's really just republicans are only unified in presenting a unified front so when it comes to actually doing something like electing a speaker [2] [3] the lack of alignment becomes obvious. So they aren't doing anything to counteract trump because they aren't as a whole unified in that it's something they want but they're unified in not fracturing and helping democrats. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2023_Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2023_Speaker_of_the_Un... [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2023_Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2023_Speaker_of_the_Un...
  - blitzar 1y ago
    Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. The democrats don't have the numbers - even if they did, the more ridiculous the whole thing gets the better for them it is.
    - lesuorac 1y ago
      Siting around and do nothing is going to come back and bite incumbent democrats in a couple years. Sure they might not lose the general election to a republican but their primary is going to be painful.
      - blitzar 1y ago
        Reactionary politics and hysterical screeching is what got the democrats into the problems they are currently face. Repeating the same mistakes over and over again is the definition of insanity.
  - anonymars 1y ago
    Yes but that's basically the prisoner's dilemma in a nutshell. Who's going to to take the leap of faith and put their neck on the chopping block? Liz Cheney? Adam Kitzinger? Mitt Romney? > In an interview with The Atlantic published earlier this week, Romney fretted over his ability to keep his entire family safe from Trump’s ire, should he be reelected in November. (Trump has made it clear that his plans for a second term include seeking revenge on those who’ve wronged him.) “How am I going to protect 25 grandkids, two great-grandkids?” Romney told The Atlantic. “I’ve got five sons, five daughters-in-law—it’s like, we’re a big group.”
- watwut 1y ago
  I am saying "they are doing nothing, because they want this to happen". Trump policies are exactly what conservatives wanted and pushed for. The corruption and all that is stuff they are fine with, as long as it is one of them doing it.

They always do - eventually

by redeux 1y ago

They always do - eventually

I think the point was to refute "they are doing nothing therefore they want this to happen" Related: https://www.newsweek.com/lisa-murkowski-donald-trump-retaliation-republican-2061115 https://www.newsweek.com/lisa-murkowski-donald-trump-retalia...

lesuorac 1y ago
I mean if so many of them are scared they can just caucus with the nearly (but not actually) 50% of congress members that are democrats [1]. It's really just republicans are only unified in presenting a unified front so when it comes to actually doing something like electing a speaker [2] [3] the lack of alignment becomes obvious. So they aren't doing anything to counteract trump because they aren't as a whole unified in that it's something they want but they're unified in not fracturing and helping democrats. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2023_Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2023_Speaker_of_the_Un... [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2023_Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2023_Speaker_of_the_Un...
- blitzar 1y ago
  Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. The democrats don't have the numbers - even if they did, the more ridiculous the whole thing gets the better for them it is.
  - lesuorac 1y ago
    Siting around and do nothing is going to come back and bite incumbent democrats in a couple years. Sure they might not lose the general election to a republican but their primary is going to be painful.
    - blitzar 1y ago
      Reactionary politics and hysterical screeching is what got the democrats into the problems they are currently face. Repeating the same mistakes over and over again is the definition of insanity.
- anonymars 1y ago
  Yes but that's basically the prisoner's dilemma in a nutshell. Who's going to to take the leap of faith and put their neck on the chopping block? Liz Cheney? Adam Kitzinger? Mitt Romney? > In an interview with The Atlantic published earlier this week, Romney fretted over his ability to keep his entire family safe from Trump’s ire, should he be reelected in November. (Trump has made it clear that his plans for a second term include seeking revenge on those who’ve wronged him.) “How am I going to protect 25 grandkids, two great-grandkids?” Romney told The Atlantic. “I’ve got five sons, five daughters-in-law—it’s like, we’re a big group.”
watwut 1y ago
I am saying "they are doing nothing, because they want this to happen". Trump policies are exactly what conservatives wanted and pushed for. The corruption and all that is stuff they are fine with, as long as it is one of them doing it.