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Can you back this up? Because googling for "Kellerstapelspeicherzeiger" yields only a single result which purports the same legend on stackexchange without pro

Can you back this up? Because googling for "Kellerstapelspeicherzeiger" yields only a single result which purports the same legend on stackexchange without providing a source and has been downvoted to -3. As a matter of fact the submission links the full manual and they also just use "Stapelspeicher" and not "Kellerstapelspeicher". And that manual is by Siemens and from the 80s. "Stapelzeiger" and "Stapelspeicher" otoh yield many results. Googling for "Kellerstapelspeicher" only yield results for "Keller, Stapelspeicher", indicating that those are not used in one words but are synonyms.

ratatoskrt 1y ago
The German-language Wikipedia article on Stapelspeicher [1] points to a a patent registration [2]. [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stapelspeicher https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stapelspeicher [2] https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/006967243/publication/DE1094019B?q=pn%3DDE1094019 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/0069672...
- raffael_de 1y ago
  Which supports what I am saying.
- weinzierl 1y ago
  It's unlikely to appear in Bauer's publications because he coined and used the Keller metaphor. It is much more likely to appear in later publications that tried to translate stack but at the same time wanted to pay tribute to Bauer, hence the usage of both Keller and Stapel.
weinzierl 1y ago
You are right to be skeptical. Unfortunately I could not find the "Handbuch für Datenverarbeitung" mentioned in the Stack Exchange post. Amazon lists it with ISBN 3927892009 but it is not available unsurprisingly. Neither libgen nor archive.org seem to have it either. Apart from several humorous mentions over the decades I found one serious reference in an exam text from 1997 [1]. [1] https://www.telle-online.de/fernuni/ruf/klausur/1704-97.html#:~:text=Entwerfen%2520Sie%2520eine%2520Einheit%2520f%C3%BCr,Kellerstapelspeicher%2529%2520%C3%BCberwacht https://www.telle-online.de/fernuni/ruf/klausur/1704-97.html...
- raffael_de 1y ago
  My first impression was that this is another sarcastic variation of the German tapeworm theme.
  - croemer 1y ago
    You've made me curious about the tapeworm theme!
gmueckl 1y ago
I remember one of my CS professors talking about "Kellerspeicher" when teaching stacks in algorithms class. He was quite oldschool, so I wasn't surprised that he would use German words, but using a cellar as a metaphor for a stack seemed like a confusing choice.

ratatoskrt 1y ago

The German-language Wikipedia article on Stapelspeicher [1] points to a a patent registration [2]. [1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stapelspeicher https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stapelspeicher [2] https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/006967243/publication/DE1094019B?q=pn%3DDE1094019 https://worldwide.espacenet.com/patent/search/family/0069672...

raffael_de 1y ago
Which supports what I am saying.
weinzierl 1y ago
It's unlikely to appear in Bauer's publications because he coined and used the Keller metaphor. It is much more likely to appear in later publications that tried to translate stack but at the same time wanted to pay tribute to Bauer, hence the usage of both Keller and Stapel.

weinzierl 1y ago

You are right to be skeptical. Unfortunately I could not find the "Handbuch für Datenverarbeitung" mentioned in the Stack Exchange post. Amazon lists it with ISBN 3927892009 but it is not available unsurprisingly. Neither libgen nor archive.org seem to have it either. Apart from several humorous mentions over the decades I found one serious reference in an exam text from 1997 [1]. [1] https://www.telle-online.de/fernuni/ruf/klausur/1704-97.html#:~:text=Entwerfen%2520Sie%2520eine%2520Einheit%2520f%C3%BCr,Kellerstapelspeicher%2529%2520%C3%BCberwacht https://www.telle-online.de/fernuni/ruf/klausur/1704-97.html...

raffael_de 1y ago
My first impression was that this is another sarcastic variation of the German tapeworm theme.
- croemer 1y ago
  You've made me curious about the tapeworm theme!

gmueckl 1y ago

I remember one of my CS professors talking about "Kellerspeicher" when teaching stacks in algorithms class. He was quite oldschool, so I wasn't surprised that he would use German words, but using a cellar as a metaphor for a stack seemed like a confusing choice.