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How come they get to fumble and botch everything then?

• actionfromafar 1y ago
  Reason: Congress has decided to not to ask that question of the Presidents Office.
  • watwut 1y ago
    Why so abstract? It is because republicans in the Congress are supporting Trump policies. They are doing nothing, because they want this to happen.
    • blitzar 1y ago
      Why don't people rise up against dictators in other parts of the world?
      • redeux 1y ago
        They always do - eventually
        • anonymars 1y ago
          I think the point was to refute "they are doing nothing therefore they want this to happen" Related: https://www.newsweek.com/lisa-murkowski-donald-trump-retaliation-republican-2061115 https://www.newsweek.com/lisa-murkowski-donald-trump-retalia...
          • lesuorac 1y ago
            I mean if so many of them are scared they can just caucus with the nearly (but not actually) 50% of congress members that are democrats [1]. It's really just republicans are only unified in presenting a unified front so when it comes to actually doing something like electing a speaker [2] [3] the lack of alignment becomes obvious. So they aren't doing anything to counteract trump because they aren't as a whole unified in that it's something they want but they're unified in not fracturing and helping democrats. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2023_Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2023_Speaker_of_the_Un... [3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2023_Speaker_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2023_Speaker_of_the_Un...
            • blitzar 1y ago
              Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake. The democrats don't have the numbers - even if they did, the more ridiculous the whole thing gets the better for them it is.
              • lesuorac 1y ago
                Siting around and do nothing is going to come back and bite incumbent democrats in a couple years. Sure they might not lose the general election to a republican but their primary is going to be painful.
                • blitzar 1y ago
                  Reactionary politics and hysterical screeching is what got the democrats into the problems they are currently face. Repeating the same mistakes over and over again is the definition of insanity.
            • anonymars 1y ago
              Yes but that's basically the prisoner's dilemma in a nutshell. Who's going to to take the leap of faith and put their neck on the chopping block? Liz Cheney? Adam Kitzinger? Mitt Romney? > In an interview with The Atlantic published earlier this week, Romney fretted over his ability to keep his entire family safe from Trump’s ire, should he be reelected in November. (Trump has made it clear that his plans for a second term include seeking revenge on those who’ve wronged him.) “How am I going to protect 25 grandkids, two great-grandkids?” Romney told The Atlantic. “I’ve got five sons, five daughters-in-law—it’s like, we’re a big group.”
          • watwut 1y ago
            I am saying "they are doing nothing, because they want this to happen". Trump policies are exactly what conservatives wanted and pushed for. The corruption and all that is stuff they are fine with, as long as it is one of them doing it.
      • watwut 1y ago
        Dictators around the world have supporters who do not rise against them, because they are completely on board with their agenda. Trump and his policies are to large extend logical extension of what republican party pushed for and wanted for years. Conservatives wanted exactly this, pressed for exactly this, made this happen. Plus, they are not just tolerating, they are actively defending it, sane-washing it more then mainstream media. And yet also, they all have choices. They are not at risk the same way people living under dictatorship are. They made choice to support this party again and again, because they agree with it.
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      • rsynnott 1y ago
        To a large extent, insofar as Trump is a dictator, it is only because Congress have decided to allow that through inaction. At least for the time being (though, see, for instance, the Weimar Republic; this may end up being a use-it-or-lose-it ability), they still do have the power to largely put him back in his box if they want to.
  • DFHippie 1y ago
    Once upon a time Congress would botch something and all one could do without getting into weeds no one cared about was blame Congress. No one wanted to hear a list of 200 assorted representatives. In these partisan times one can always be more precise: it is either the Democratic caucus or the Republican caucus. Almost no one goes against their caucus. In this case, and in every case until the midterm elections, it is the Republican caucus. Assign blame or merit where it is due and maybe voters will have enough shame, pride, or sense of self-preservation to fix things. Botching security is currently a Republican project.
    • trelane 1y ago
      Sort of. The Dems laughing at the Reps voting out their own speaker was interesting on several levels.