> so even if EnergyStar doesn't exist you can't just lie about energy consumption and be legal. Right, but you can just not include that information at all. Wh

> so even if EnergyStar doesn't exist you can't just lie about energy consumption and be legal. Right, but you can just not include that information at all. Which is both cheaper for the manufacturer and advantageous for them. Or, do you one better, you can include vague claims that you can argue don't mean anything. Sort of like "natural" on food. That word means absolutely nothing. Still plastered across food and consumers think it means something. Also, on the topic of deficit: no, I reject this notion. It's just conservative populist propaganda that we have to burn it all down otherwise the US implodes. Until you, and other's, start proposing wealth taxes, I don't give a shit what you think about the deficit. Sorry, I don't, so don't waste your breath.