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> Where did you get this disinformation? http://justice4assange.com/US-Extradition.html#TR http://justice4assange.com/US-Extradition.html#TR http://wlcentral.

> Where did you get this disinformation? http://justice4assange.com/US-Extradition.html#TR http://justice4assange.com/US-Extradition.html#TR http://wlcentral.org/node/2671 http://wlcentral.org/node/2671 > Why did you trust it enough to post it It seems to be supported by evidence, and has been posted by sources that are trustworthy. > under your name, John Millikin? It would be cowardly to post something like this under a pseudonym.

johansch 14y ago
> http://wlcentral.org/node/2671 http://wlcentral.org/node/2671 "Julian Assange's mother Christine recently tweeted the following facts about extraditions involving the US, the UK, Sweden, and Australia." So basically, Julian's mom told you so. Okay...
- fffggg 14y ago
  Your flippant rudeness is inappropriate. Sweden has an established history of extraditing on behalf of the US in various illegal fashions. Here is one example: http://www.hrw.org/news/2006/11/09/sweden-violated-torture-ban-cia-rendition http://www.hrw.org/news/2006/11/09/sweden-violated-torture-b... Sweden has been breaking international law for some time now, at the USA's behest. As the UN panel noted there is no reason to think Sweden might uphold their own diplomatic assurances as they have been caught violating them repeatedly.
  - Blara 14y ago
    A single case does not an established history make.
  - johansch 14y ago
    So jmillikin stated that this had been posted by trustworthy sources and then goes on to list Julian's mom as a trustworthy source. I don't understand in which way I am "flippantly rude" when pointing this out.
Tyrannosaurs 14y ago
http://www.sweden.gov.se/content/1/c6/01/54/35/77809ec6.pdf http://www.sweden.gov.se/content/1/c6/01/54/35/77809ec6.pdf This is the text if the actual Swedish extradition law from the government web site. It clearly states on Page 3, section 12, point 3 that someone can not be extradited if they are to face the death penalty. The Swedes would have to get assurances from the US that this wasn't the case to extradite him.
- KimbaLion 14y ago
  But renditioning for torture: http://www.hrw.org/news/2006/11/09/sweden-violated-torture-ban-cia-rendition http://www.hrw.org/news/2006/11/09/sweden-violated-torture-b... And life imprisonment in somewhere like GITMO (a la Bradley Manning) is just fine I suppose! Oh yes, I'm sure if you were Assange you'd feel SO much better now! Wake the fuck up! Law as written bears NO resemblance to what happens in practice (when it doesn't suit the Powers That Be), and that is just a very small part of what Assange is fighting against. Goddamn it gets tiring having to persuade/enlighten people who don't even realise Assange and Wikileaks are highting THEIR BATTLE for them! Show some bloody gratitude and at least educate yourself about the realities of this sordid world we live in. I think its the LEAST you can do to say thanks to people who ARE actually putting their life on the line for these principles.
- johansch 14y ago
  Kudos for finding the actual law text (where I as a native Swedish speaker gave up after 15 minutes of reading legalese).

johansch 14y ago

> http://wlcentral.org/node/2671 http://wlcentral.org/node/2671 "Julian Assange's mother Christine recently tweeted the following facts about extraditions involving the US, the UK, Sweden, and Australia." So basically, Julian's mom told you so. Okay...

fffggg 14y ago
Your flippant rudeness is inappropriate. Sweden has an established history of extraditing on behalf of the US in various illegal fashions. Here is one example: http://www.hrw.org/news/2006/11/09/sweden-violated-torture-ban-cia-rendition http://www.hrw.org/news/2006/11/09/sweden-violated-torture-b... Sweden has been breaking international law for some time now, at the USA's behest. As the UN panel noted there is no reason to think Sweden might uphold their own diplomatic assurances as they have been caught violating them repeatedly.
- Blara 14y ago
  A single case does not an established history make.
- johansch 14y ago
  So jmillikin stated that this had been posted by trustworthy sources and then goes on to list Julian's mom as a trustworthy source. I don't understand in which way I am "flippantly rude" when pointing this out.

Tyrannosaurs 14y ago

http://www.sweden.gov.se/content/1/c6/01/54/35/77809ec6.pdf http://www.sweden.gov.se/content/1/c6/01/54/35/77809ec6.pdf This is the text if the actual Swedish extradition law from the government web site. It clearly states on Page 3, section 12, point 3 that someone can not be extradited if they are to face the death penalty. The Swedes would have to get assurances from the US that this wasn't the case to extradite him.

KimbaLion 14y ago
But renditioning for torture: http://www.hrw.org/news/2006/11/09/sweden-violated-torture-ban-cia-rendition http://www.hrw.org/news/2006/11/09/sweden-violated-torture-b... And life imprisonment in somewhere like GITMO (a la Bradley Manning) is just fine I suppose! Oh yes, I'm sure if you were Assange you'd feel SO much better now! Wake the fuck up! Law as written bears NO resemblance to what happens in practice (when it doesn't suit the Powers That Be), and that is just a very small part of what Assange is fighting against. Goddamn it gets tiring having to persuade/enlighten people who don't even realise Assange and Wikileaks are highting THEIR BATTLE for them! Show some bloody gratitude and at least educate yourself about the realities of this sordid world we live in. I think its the LEAST you can do to say thanks to people who ARE actually putting their life on the line for these principles.
johansch 14y ago
Kudos for finding the actual law text (where I as a native Swedish speaker gave up after 15 minutes of reading legalese).