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Maybe we need to tease "community" apart from language. Let's have Java / C# "A" people (who need at least 10 levels of inheritance, gotta use DI, insist on eve
by osigurdson 1y ago
Maybe we need to tease "community" apart from language. Let's have Java / C# "A" people (who need at least 10 levels of inheritance, gotta use DI, insist on every character of SOLID (and actually remember and care about the Liskov substitution principle - and insist that it wasn't chosen simply because it starts with "L" and makes the acronym sound better) and have never written any code that added any value - only frameworks. Then we can have Java / C# "B" people that care about allocations, hate DI, avoid inheritance, know when they are messing up cache line hits and even feel slightly bad a about using generics.
Something like that, pick your tribe or, even better, be an individual and do whatever (TF) you want.
- josephg 1y agoYep. That’s why I prefer to criticise OOP (and in particular, inheritance). Not specific languages. I met this old guy at a conference one, ~15 years ago. He said he didn’t get why people say Java is slow. His Java, he said, runs just as fast as C. I asked him to show me his code - and I’m so glad I did. It was amazing. He did everything in one big static class, and treated Java as if it were a funny way to write C. He ignored almost the entire standard library. No wonder his code ran fast. It was basically JIT-compiled C code. Java isn’t the problem. “Java best practices” are the problem. It’s a culture thing. Likewise, can write heavily OOP code in C if you really put your mind to it and write your own struct full of function pointers. But it’s not in culture of the C community to overuse that design.
- neonsunset 1y ago> even feel slightly bad a about using generics. Hey, struct generics are the go-to tool for zero-cost abstractions in .NET! No need to feel bad about them :)