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Steve is the hero of salesmen, consultants and CEO-s, should not be a hero for geeks and actual developers.

voidspark 1y ago
Geeks and developers can have multiple dimensions to their personality. I respect Steve Jobs for his ruthless and uncompromising focus on quality and his attention to detail. He wasn't just a sales guy.
saalweachter 1y ago
I mean, the salesman-CEO/founder is way better at selling themselves as a hero of tech & innovation than the engineer-CTO/founder.
- numinix 1y ago
  Sending every new user an email with a "very personal welcome" and audio message for example.
scarface_74 1y ago
Steve Jobs knew how to ship products people want. I have no respect for developers in a corporate settings who don’t ship.
- Affric 1y ago
  Steve: what would this product be like if it were magical? Engineer: I don’t think we can build that with our current technology. Steve: I don’t give a fuck. You’re a nerd who is meant to like inventing. Do it. It’s really easy when we live in the world of the Mac, and the iPhone to say “Ah it was inevitable” but Steve’s approach to product is what got us here. He made sure that the GUI was computers, that capacitive touchscreens were smart phones. Being arguably the greatest product guy and salesman of all time is some feat.
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  - scarface_74 1y ago
    > After launch, MobileMe was widely panned, full of embarrassing bugs. Jobs gathered employees in an Apple auditorium and asked them, “Can anyone tell me what MobileMe is supposed to do?” And when his team started to answer, Job snapped, saying, “Why the F doesn’t it do that?” He spent the next hour berating the group, saying they had tarnished Apple’s reputation and that they should all hate each other for having let each other down. He then fired the head of the team and replaced him on the spot. Steve wasn’t happy at all. He clearly felt very deep shame and took it out on his team” https://medium.com/initialized-capital/how-founders-must-channel-shame-51baab69ca45 https://medium.com/initialized-capital/how-founders-must-cha... Can you imagine “Apple Intelligence” being this bad under Jobs? Contrast that with Cook… “where can we put more ad units that make the product worse” “Let’s ignore Phil Schiller’s advice, the judge’s court order and make the experience of paying outside of the App Store as shitty as possible”. “Let’s keep our base model Macs at 8GB for over a decade to save a little money and get people to pay for upgrades” I really hate Tim Cook.

Geeks and developers can have multiple dimensions to their personality. I respect Steve Jobs for his ruthless and uncompromising focus on quality and his attention to detail. He wasn't just a sales guy.

saalweachter 1y ago

I mean, the salesman-CEO/founder is way better at selling themselves as a hero of tech & innovation than the engineer-CTO/founder.

numinix 1y ago
Sending every new user an email with a "very personal welcome" and audio message for example.

scarface_74 1y ago

Steve Jobs knew how to ship products people want. I have no respect for developers in a corporate settings who don’t ship.

Affric 1y ago
Steve: what would this product be like if it were magical? Engineer: I don’t think we can build that with our current technology. Steve: I don’t give a fuck. You’re a nerd who is meant to like inventing. Do it. It’s really easy when we live in the world of the Mac, and the iPhone to say “Ah it was inevitable” but Steve’s approach to product is what got us here. He made sure that the GUI was computers, that capacitive touchscreens were smart phones. Being arguably the greatest product guy and salesman of all time is some feat.
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- scarface_74 1y ago
  > After launch, MobileMe was widely panned, full of embarrassing bugs. Jobs gathered employees in an Apple auditorium and asked them, “Can anyone tell me what MobileMe is supposed to do?” And when his team started to answer, Job snapped, saying, “Why the F doesn’t it do that?” He spent the next hour berating the group, saying they had tarnished Apple’s reputation and that they should all hate each other for having let each other down. He then fired the head of the team and replaced him on the spot. Steve wasn’t happy at all. He clearly felt very deep shame and took it out on his team” https://medium.com/initialized-capital/how-founders-must-channel-shame-51baab69ca45 https://medium.com/initialized-capital/how-founders-must-cha... Can you imagine “Apple Intelligence” being this bad under Jobs? Contrast that with Cook… “where can we put more ad units that make the product worse” “Let’s ignore Phil Schiller’s advice, the judge’s court order and make the experience of paying outside of the App Store as shitty as possible”. “Let’s keep our base model Macs at 8GB for over a decade to save a little money and get people to pay for upgrades” I really hate Tim Cook.