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> It costs $100/hour to run a bus That sounds pretty cheap! Googling suggests you can get 40 people on the average bus, but let's say that's 20! Let's be sup
by godelski 2y ago
> It costs $100/hour to run a bus
That sounds pretty cheap!
Googling suggests you can get 40 people on the average bus, but let's say that's 20! Let's be super rough to get guesstimates. California has an average gas price of $4.83/gal[0] and average car is like 24mpg. We'll take that at 60mph and assume you're driving that (mpg is usually worse in cities). So let's say ($4.8/g) * (1/24 g/m) * (60 m/h) = 12. So at half capacity the bus is more than half the price. That's even before we include things like insurance, maintenance, and anything else (like parking fees). Sure, we're super rough, but given how big the difference is I'd be surprised if refining switched the conclusion.
Of course, there's extra convenience of cars, but a lot of time we don't need that extra convenience. A lot of times we're going the same way everyone else is and our convenience becomes inconvenient. There's also lots of extra conveniences of public transportation too. If you've experienced good public transit you probably prefer it in most situations.
I agree, things need to run all day but I disagree that it costs a lot of money. I think the bigger issue is the negative feedback loop. Public transportation sucks, so no one uses it. -> Public transportation can't get more funding because no one uses it. -> No one uses public transportation because it sucks. Unfortunately this is one of those things where "build it and they will come". It won't happen right away, momentum is a bitch, but it can't ever happen without making the investment. And clearly it is actually cheap.
[0] https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=CA https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=CA
- bluGill 2y agoif you can get the money to buy and run all those buses and run them for several years while people figure out they are good. They also need to be good - many buses run terrible routes that won't get you where you want to go in a reasonable anount of time.
- godelski 2y agoI recognize this. Please read my last paragraph.