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Americans will say they are Italian because their great grandma ate spaghetti once, but God forbid someone is American because he was born there
by mvieira38 1y ago
Americans will say they are Italian because their great grandma ate spaghetti once, but God forbid someone is American because he was born there
- johnnyanmac 1y agoWell, Trump is trying to prove otherwise. I guess this would be one of the few backfires if such an act did make it through.
- carlosjobim 1y agoWhen the war comes, dual citizenship might become complicated. Certainly a pope cannot be a citizen, but for others.
- GuB-42 1y agoGP is right, he is not "completely" American in the sense that he is both American and Peruvian because of his dual citizenship. He also spent most of his life outside of the USA. Which I think is a great thing as the representative of a worldwide religion. Born in the US, an English-speaking country in North America, lived in Peru, a Spanish-speaking country in the South America, then in Italy, an Italian-speaking country in Europe.
- froh 1y agohe is completely US American because he was born and raised there and studied there, maths and philosophy amongst other things. and in addition he is also Peruvian. so he's more than American. hyper American if you will. and now he's the head of state of the Vatican, too. a triple whopper of sorts ;-)
- davidw 1y agoDefinitely a "yes, and" thing. I'm working on dual citizenship and I would not consider myself "less American" once I got it.
- DonHopkins 1y agoYou can't study maths in America. There is only one math in America.
- madcaptenor 1y agoThere are many sports though.
- froh 1y agoloool TIL my cheap excuse is that Europeans learn en-uk ;-)
- kashunstva 1y ago> he is not "completely" American As for being completely American: dual citizen of U.S. and another country here. On each April 15, the U.S. still considers me completely American even though I haven’t earned a cent there in over a decade. So in an official sense, that moniker sticks to you like Super Glue. Granted, the new pope may have a wider scope of cultural influences than many, if not a majority of Americans, it sounds like his formative years were spent in the U.S. so I’d call him American.
- User23 1y agoThere’s a really interesting question here. Will the USA claim the right to tax the new pontiff? Likely answer is no, but legally the statute suggests yes. But who knows? There’s never before been a US citizen who is also a foreign sovereign.
- dleen 1y agoÉamon de Valera (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89amon_de_Valera https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89amon_de_Valera), US citizen and President of Ireland.
- skissane 1y ago> There’s never before been a US citizen who is also a foreign sovereign. Éamon de Valera was born in New York City in 1882, and served as President of Ireland from 1959 to 1973 Bhumibol Adulyadej was born in Cambridge, Massachusetts in 1927, and served as King of Thailand from 1946 until his death in 2016 That’s just two US-born individuals who became head of state of another country, there may be more. I assume both were US citizens at birth (de Valera was born into poverty, abandoned by his Spanish father, reputedly an artist; Bhumibol‘s father was a student at Harvard)-whether or not they ever formally renounced their US citizenship, I don’t know
- SideburnsOfDoom 1y ago> there may be more. > Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson was born on 19 June 1964 on the Upper East Side of Manhattan, New York City
- bbor 1y agoI mean, this is supposedly the logic of the electing cardinals, not randos. They intentionally were avoiding an American pope until now, and this was (again, supposedly) a mitigating factor! Personally I don’t believe in nationalism, so he’s just a dude from Chicago if anything.
- oiwjeilrjle 1y ago[flagged]