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> That said, I don't believe Trump is that stupid Do you think he's acting when he does things like keep preventing an interviewer from moving on because he wa

> That said, I don't believe Trump is that stupid Do you think he's acting when he does things like keep preventing an interviewer from moving on because he wants to make extra sure everyone knows he entirely believes that obviously-photoshopped, not-trying-to-look-like-anything-but-an-overlay letters and numbers on a picture of someone's hand were in fact real tattoos?

seanw444 1y ago
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- Moomoomoo309 1y ago
  They're trying to tell you that Trump is as stupid as he seems. For many people, they're faking being stupid. Trump, like George W Bush, is not. There's no 4D chess going on here, whatever seems like the simplest explanation with Trump is almost always exactly what's being done. Keep it simple. Trump likes simple.
  - seanw444 1y ago
    Keeping it simple is knowing that people don't get to such high places via stupidity.
    - ceejayoz 1y ago
      History is full of stupid people in high positions.
    - alabastervlog 1y ago
      I've yet to gain access to a level of "high place" at which the distribution of competence and intelligence is a ton different from a median public high school classroom. It's been one of the more disturbing discoveries of my adult life, that every time I get insight into one of these it's barely better than anything else on that front, and usually worse in the ethics and trustworthiness department.
    - fzeroracer 1y ago
      If you've worked for any company for about a day or two, you'd know plenty of stupid people get to high positions.
  - nobody9999 1y ago
    >Trump, like George W Bush, is not. I hate to break it to you, but George W. Bush isn't stupid. While GW Bush did cultivate that "dumb hick" persona, that's all it was -- a fake persona. This gubernatorial debate[0] (from 1994) between then Governor Ann Richards and George W. Bush will give the lie to the idea that 'Dubya' is dumb. Definitely an amoral jerk, but not dumb. [0] https://www.c-span.org/program/public-affairs-event/texas-gubernatorial-debate/101685 https://www.c-span.org/program/public-affairs-event/texas-gu...
- anonymars 1y ago
  It sure is easy to have an opinion if you don't care about evidence to the contrary
- alabastervlog 1y ago
  I mean, it's one example. Do you think the constantly that he presents as conspicuously extremely stupid is all an act? Do you think the several people who've been close to him who describe him as breathtakingly stupid are lying, or incorrect (fooled by another part of that act, one supposes)? I don't see what gets people to class as unlikely the notion that he might be a really stupid guy with some really dumb ideas who's being pulled multiple directions by other people who may or may not also be dumb but do have bad/evil ideas. To me that appears overwhelmingly to be the most likely explanation for... all of it, really. It may still be wrong! But why isn't it—at least—a top contender, explanation-wise?
  - busyant 1y ago
    > Do you think the several people who've been close to him who describe him as breathtakingly stupid are lying, or incorrect (fooled by another part of that act, one supposes)? James Comey wrote that he was moderately intelligent (I forget Comey's exact phrasing). And I think that's true. He's smart enough to know when to lie to escape legal jeopardy, so I think that's a mark of some amount of intelligence. But he is also horriffically broken in some part of his personality, to the point where he lacks empathy, and constantly lies to obtain advantage.
  - ModernMech 1y ago
    Because if Trump is really truly an idiot, what does that make the people who willingly chose to vote for him and didn't see that? People just can't accept that possibility, so they have to pretend it's all an act.
  - ModernMech 1y ago
    Because if Trump is really truly an idiot, what does that make the people who willingly chose to vote for him and didn't see that? People just can't accept what that says about their own judgement, so they have to pretend it's all an act.

seanw444 1y ago

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Moomoomoo309 1y ago
They're trying to tell you that Trump is as stupid as he seems. For many people, they're faking being stupid. Trump, like George W Bush, is not. There's no 4D chess going on here, whatever seems like the simplest explanation with Trump is almost always exactly what's being done. Keep it simple. Trump likes simple.
- seanw444 1y ago
  Keeping it simple is knowing that people don't get to such high places via stupidity.
  - ceejayoz 1y ago
    History is full of stupid people in high positions.
  - alabastervlog 1y ago
    I've yet to gain access to a level of "high place" at which the distribution of competence and intelligence is a ton different from a median public high school classroom. It's been one of the more disturbing discoveries of my adult life, that every time I get insight into one of these it's barely better than anything else on that front, and usually worse in the ethics and trustworthiness department.
  - fzeroracer 1y ago
    If you've worked for any company for about a day or two, you'd know plenty of stupid people get to high positions.
- nobody9999 1y ago
  >Trump, like George W Bush, is not. I hate to break it to you, but George W. Bush isn't stupid. While GW Bush did cultivate that "dumb hick" persona, that's all it was -- a fake persona. This gubernatorial debate[0] (from 1994) between then Governor Ann Richards and George W. Bush will give the lie to the idea that 'Dubya' is dumb. Definitely an amoral jerk, but not dumb. [0] https://www.c-span.org/program/public-affairs-event/texas-gubernatorial-debate/101685 https://www.c-span.org/program/public-affairs-event/texas-gu...
anonymars 1y ago
It sure is easy to have an opinion if you don't care about evidence to the contrary
alabastervlog 1y ago
I mean, it's one example. Do you think the constantly that he presents as conspicuously extremely stupid is all an act? Do you think the several people who've been close to him who describe him as breathtakingly stupid are lying, or incorrect (fooled by another part of that act, one supposes)? I don't see what gets people to class as unlikely the notion that he might be a really stupid guy with some really dumb ideas who's being pulled multiple directions by other people who may or may not also be dumb but do have bad/evil ideas. To me that appears overwhelmingly to be the most likely explanation for... all of it, really. It may still be wrong! But why isn't it—at least—a top contender, explanation-wise?
- busyant 1y ago
  > Do you think the several people who've been close to him who describe him as breathtakingly stupid are lying, or incorrect (fooled by another part of that act, one supposes)? James Comey wrote that he was moderately intelligent (I forget Comey's exact phrasing). And I think that's true. He's smart enough to know when to lie to escape legal jeopardy, so I think that's a mark of some amount of intelligence. But he is also horriffically broken in some part of his personality, to the point where he lacks empathy, and constantly lies to obtain advantage.
- ModernMech 1y ago
  Because if Trump is really truly an idiot, what does that make the people who willingly chose to vote for him and didn't see that? People just can't accept that possibility, so they have to pretend it's all an act.
- ModernMech 1y ago
  Because if Trump is really truly an idiot, what does that make the people who willingly chose to vote for him and didn't see that? People just can't accept what that says about their own judgement, so they have to pretend it's all an act.