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You charge a separate tariff charge.

duxup 1y ago
I think it is a good choice to be transparent. I 100% agree with that. But I don't know that it really changes the "I'm out" dynamic or risk that they won't just show up again. Also if there's a lot of "I'm out" you just bought a lot of stuff nobody wants to pay anything near the cost of.
SketchySeaBeast 1y ago
Yeah, I don't know why any business with the capacity wouldn't be being explicit about this. If you're going to get hate, might as well try to point the hate in the right direction. It makes absolutely no sense to fall on that particular sword.
grey-area 1y ago
Something this administration considers a 'hostile and political move'? If you're small enough I guess you might get a way with it, if you're big enough you'll be threatened into compliance. Either way the US customers and the rest of the world lose, everyone is a little poorer because of these tariffs.
- tantalor 1y ago
  I don't understand how they can say its hostile to list tariffs when plenty of merchants will advertise "made in America" as a selling point. It's the same thing!
  - duxup 1y ago
    The current administration considers "I don't like it" to be hostile, it's really that simple.
    - dylan604 1y ago
      Yeah, it really feels like a strained lack of understanding. If you challenge the orange man, you're immediately deemed hostile.
  - jacobyoder 1y ago
    More to the point, if high tariffs are GOOD, we should be embracing them and the WH should be working to promote 'pride in tariffs!' messaging. Show how much you love your country and leader by how much in tariffs you pay! It'll be great, because you won't have to pay $3k income tax, just... an extra $5k in cost of living every year. Forever. Even when you stop working.
- mlinhares 1y ago
  The people running the government are making bank with shitcoins so some people are winning.
- QuercusMax 1y ago
  You'd think these big companies would want to stand up against this nonsense. Microsoft fired their law firm who sucked up to Trump's threats. Why doesn't Wal-Mart or whoever make a loud pronouncement that they'll fund primary campaigns against any congressperson who supports these tariffs? These companies got Citizens United passed so they can spend unlimited amounts of political money, so why don't they use this power when their business is threatened like this?
  - SketchySeaBeast 1y ago
    Well, there's ~1,461 days in a presidential term and only just over a hundred have gone by so far. I think companies are concerned about focused and crippling reprisal.
    - amanaplanacanal 1y ago
      They only have to get enough folks elected to push him out of office after the midterms. So half that.
      - SketchySeaBeast 1y ago
        To push him out of office would require impeachment, and that's basically an impossibility, even if there's a significant shift blue. At best there'd be some checks on his power, but he's ultimately still going to be POTUS with all the rights and (denied) responsibilities therein.
  - vkou 1y ago
    Because anyone making public moves against this will be punished further by the regime. That's how autocracies work, my friend, you can't rules lawyer your way out of one, because the rules can always be changed to fuck you over some more.
  - seunosewa 1y ago
    Trump is willing and able to ruin any business. He doesn't respect democratic norms.
- deleted 1y ago
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jm4 1y ago
And if you're big enough and you do that, you get bullied into submission by the White House. It's really hard to look at this administration's economic policies and not wonder whether there is deliberate sabotage going on. The best case scenario is these people are woefully uninformed and incompetent. These tariffs will hurt consumers, destroy small businesses, and simultaneously have the potential to enrich the largest players in the market. This never would have happened if our population was better educated and particularly more financially literate.
- _DeadFred_ 1y ago
  I mean Besset, Trump's Secretary of Treasury, was on Soros' team that broke the Bank of England. According to MAGA he is literally the Soros swamp that got rich basically breaking a friendly country. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/26/business/scott-bessent-wall-street-treasury.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/26/business/scott-bessent-wa...
- anjel 1y ago
  Amerexit

I think it is a good choice to be transparent. I 100% agree with that. But I don't know that it really changes the "I'm out" dynamic or risk that they won't just show up again. Also if there's a lot of "I'm out" you just bought a lot of stuff nobody wants to pay anything near the cost of.

SketchySeaBeast 1y ago

Yeah, I don't know why any business with the capacity wouldn't be being explicit about this. If you're going to get hate, might as well try to point the hate in the right direction. It makes absolutely no sense to fall on that particular sword.

grey-area 1y ago

Something this administration considers a 'hostile and political move'? If you're small enough I guess you might get a way with it, if you're big enough you'll be threatened into compliance. Either way the US customers and the rest of the world lose, everyone is a little poorer because of these tariffs.

tantalor 1y ago
I don't understand how they can say its hostile to list tariffs when plenty of merchants will advertise "made in America" as a selling point. It's the same thing!
- duxup 1y ago
  The current administration considers "I don't like it" to be hostile, it's really that simple.
  - dylan604 1y ago
    Yeah, it really feels like a strained lack of understanding. If you challenge the orange man, you're immediately deemed hostile.
- jacobyoder 1y ago
  More to the point, if high tariffs are GOOD, we should be embracing them and the WH should be working to promote 'pride in tariffs!' messaging. Show how much you love your country and leader by how much in tariffs you pay! It'll be great, because you won't have to pay $3k income tax, just... an extra $5k in cost of living every year. Forever. Even when you stop working.
mlinhares 1y ago
The people running the government are making bank with shitcoins so some people are winning.
QuercusMax 1y ago
You'd think these big companies would want to stand up against this nonsense. Microsoft fired their law firm who sucked up to Trump's threats. Why doesn't Wal-Mart or whoever make a loud pronouncement that they'll fund primary campaigns against any congressperson who supports these tariffs? These companies got Citizens United passed so they can spend unlimited amounts of political money, so why don't they use this power when their business is threatened like this?
- SketchySeaBeast 1y ago
  Well, there's ~1,461 days in a presidential term and only just over a hundred have gone by so far. I think companies are concerned about focused and crippling reprisal.
  - amanaplanacanal 1y ago
    They only have to get enough folks elected to push him out of office after the midterms. So half that.
    - SketchySeaBeast 1y ago
      To push him out of office would require impeachment, and that's basically an impossibility, even if there's a significant shift blue. At best there'd be some checks on his power, but he's ultimately still going to be POTUS with all the rights and (denied) responsibilities therein.
- vkou 1y ago
  Because anyone making public moves against this will be punished further by the regime. That's how autocracies work, my friend, you can't rules lawyer your way out of one, because the rules can always be changed to fuck you over some more.
- seunosewa 1y ago
  Trump is willing and able to ruin any business. He doesn't respect democratic norms.
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jm4 1y ago

And if you're big enough and you do that, you get bullied into submission by the White House. It's really hard to look at this administration's economic policies and not wonder whether there is deliberate sabotage going on. The best case scenario is these people are woefully uninformed and incompetent. These tariffs will hurt consumers, destroy small businesses, and simultaneously have the potential to enrich the largest players in the market. This never would have happened if our population was better educated and particularly more financially literate.

_DeadFred_ 1y ago
I mean Besset, Trump's Secretary of Treasury, was on Soros' team that broke the Bank of England. According to MAGA he is literally the Soros swamp that got rich basically breaking a friendly country. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/26/business/scott-bessent-wall-street-treasury.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/26/business/scott-bessent-wa...
anjel 1y ago
Amerexit