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What's peculiar was that a bunch of the research was about whether things like hormonal transition are safe, what kind of side-effects or lasting harm there may

What's peculiar was that a bunch of the research was about whether things like hormonal transition are safe, what kind of side-effects or lasting harm there may be, et c. You know, the stuff they claim to be really worried about.

pjc50 1y ago
They're not interested in facts or outcomes, they just want to ban transness and gender non-conformity in general. Similar to the abortion policy; see the Pulitzer winning article https://www.propublica.org/article/propublica-wins-pulitzer-prize-public-service-2025 https://www.propublica.org/article/propublica-wins-pulitzer-... . Sure, it might kill some women, but they're never going to pay attention to that.
- garciasn 1y ago
  No; they want to have a distraction for their voters to latch their attention on to while they do other shit that is terrible. Previously: communists / abortion George Bush II: terrorists / LGBTQ+ / abortion Trump: immigrants / LGBTQ+ / educators / liberals / terrorists / gangs / etc
  - JumpCrisscross 1y ago
    > while they do other shit that is terrible Namely, blow out the deficit to fund tax cuts and engage in massive grift.
  - sebazzz 1y ago
    BTQ+ only. Peter is gay so they don't hunt gays anymore.
  - rsynnott 1y ago
    This isn't a purely American thing, either. For quite a while, the British right's thing was Brexit. When Brexit actually happened, this kind of evaporated as a motivator, and they very visibly tried to pivot to transphobia as a primary voter motivator (it didn't really work, but it was remarkably blatant).
thisisnotauser 1y ago
It's not peculiar at all because obviously those things are harmless, and that conclusion is harmful to the administration's political agenda, so why even research it when a foregone conclusion is readily available?
- lazide 1y ago
  Nothing about those doses of hormones are harmless. If someone is transitioning, either they or their doctors considered it worth the risk - but the risks are serious.
  - AnthonyMouse 1y ago
    This thread perfectly demonstrates the issue. People have already made up their minds and it's inherently politicized, so if the research is funded by Republicans then it will be a study designed to emphasize the risks and harms and if it's funded by Democrats the opposite. Which means it's a waste of money to study because the outcome is decided by the political inclinations of the party that initially funded it, whereas the purpose of actual research is to study a question whose answer isn't known from the outset.
    - lazide 1y ago
      These hormones have been studied, both for this use, and in the general population for other uses, for literally decades. At this point actually more like 50 years. While i’m sure there would be some additional data/value from an additional study, it’s not like any of this stuff is new or novel in any way. I’m not sure how or if that agrees with or contradicts your comment, or same with whatever political BS is going on, but this stuff is pretty well understood at this point.
  - freeamz 1y ago
    Just like GMO, something like that alters our biology to such significant level, there ought to be some inter generational studies carried out before trying it on human.

pjc50 1y ago

They're not interested in facts or outcomes, they just want to ban transness and gender non-conformity in general. Similar to the abortion policy; see the Pulitzer winning article https://www.propublica.org/article/propublica-wins-pulitzer-prize-public-service-2025 https://www.propublica.org/article/propublica-wins-pulitzer-... . Sure, it might kill some women, but they're never going to pay attention to that.

garciasn 1y ago
No; they want to have a distraction for their voters to latch their attention on to while they do other shit that is terrible. Previously: communists / abortion George Bush II: terrorists / LGBTQ+ / abortion Trump: immigrants / LGBTQ+ / educators / liberals / terrorists / gangs / etc
- JumpCrisscross 1y ago
  > while they do other shit that is terrible Namely, blow out the deficit to fund tax cuts and engage in massive grift.
- sebazzz 1y ago
  BTQ+ only. Peter is gay so they don't hunt gays anymore.
- rsynnott 1y ago
  This isn't a purely American thing, either. For quite a while, the British right's thing was Brexit. When Brexit actually happened, this kind of evaporated as a motivator, and they very visibly tried to pivot to transphobia as a primary voter motivator (it didn't really work, but it was remarkably blatant).

thisisnotauser 1y ago

It's not peculiar at all because obviously those things are harmless, and that conclusion is harmful to the administration's political agenda, so why even research it when a foregone conclusion is readily available?

lazide 1y ago
Nothing about those doses of hormones are harmless. If someone is transitioning, either they or their doctors considered it worth the risk - but the risks are serious.
- AnthonyMouse 1y ago
  This thread perfectly demonstrates the issue. People have already made up their minds and it's inherently politicized, so if the research is funded by Republicans then it will be a study designed to emphasize the risks and harms and if it's funded by Democrats the opposite. Which means it's a waste of money to study because the outcome is decided by the political inclinations of the party that initially funded it, whereas the purpose of actual research is to study a question whose answer isn't known from the outset.
  - lazide 1y ago
    These hormones have been studied, both for this use, and in the general population for other uses, for literally decades. At this point actually more like 50 years. While i’m sure there would be some additional data/value from an additional study, it’s not like any of this stuff is new or novel in any way. I’m not sure how or if that agrees with or contradicts your comment, or same with whatever political BS is going on, but this stuff is pretty well understood at this point.
- freeamz 1y ago
  Just like GMO, something like that alters our biology to such significant level, there ought to be some inter generational studies carried out before trying it on human.